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November 25[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 25, 2016.

OTAИ[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:34, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up to Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_November_25#OTAI, note that this is a mixture of Cyrillic and Latin characters, thus implausible. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 21:36, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. VegaDark (talk) 23:27, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Whatever the purpose of this redirect was, it has served its purpose. Perhaps it was a weak anti-vandal measure back when Wikipedia was young. But now we can bring in the YMЯA. --Damian Yerrick (talk) 03:02, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Canada topic2[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:36, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Odd template formulation, implausibly unrelated name. Not related to Template:Canada topic nor Template:Canada topics (yes they're different) and no incoming links or transclusions. Delete. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:00, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. VegaDark (talk) 23:28, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete. I'm the one who created the redirect when I moved it to the correct name. Frietjes (talk) 14:02, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Mathew Ingram[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:37, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not clear to me why this page redirects to Moxie Software. As best I can tell, Ingram has no connection to that company. FuriouslySerene (talk) 17:41, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have no recollection of any of this (they're also London based and I was working in the field at the time, but that may be coincidence. However there are plenty of hits between the persons name and the former business name.
http://www.mathewingram.com/work/2008/05/16/social-networking-is-like-oxygen/
However, I have no further interest in the topic. Human.v2.0 (talk) 17:55, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete He's a writer for Fortune magazine and used to write for GigaOM and Globe and Mail, but not Moxie Software specifically. [1] [2] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:31, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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War brides[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. The consensus is that WP:DIFFCAPS, though not explicitly cited in the discussion, is a principle that applies here. It is appropriate to redirect the lower-case title to the primary topic and rely on the hatnote for disambiguation. Deryck C. 14:48, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(deletion) There is an existing page War Brides referring to a lost 1916 American film. The user who types 'war brides' should not be automatically redirected. I suggest a disambiguation page listing both War bride and War Brides. Finn Froding (talk) 17:11, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(This doesn't affect my "keep" comment/stance. However, due to finding a page called "War Brides Act", I didn't think that capitalization of the word "Bride" is enough to distinguish the film/TV episode subjects from the subject at War bride, so I moved the articles at War Bride and War Brides to titles with disambiguators, then targeted the leftover redirects to War bride (disambiguation). Pinging AngusWOOF since I just realized that those actions may have went against their comment above.) Steel1943 (talk) 19:43, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair. I thought if any of the films were primary topic for the caps version of Bride or Brides, then those can stay with a hatnote to the dab page that covers all the variants. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:33, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above and thanks to Steel for the dab page --Lenticel (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: For the record, regarding page views of the four titles mentioned in this discussion: on average, War bride gets about 150–200 page views a day, whereas War brides, War Bride and War Brides get about 5 page views a day individually. Steel1943 (talk) 15:50, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as a valid {{r from plural}} to the primary topic for the term.— Godsy (TALKCONT) 02:24, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Ysolo[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:40, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect pointed to an internal anchor on the list of harvest festivals. The item that carried the anchor,``Ysolo``, was recently deleted as a hoax. There is no reason to have a dangling redirect for a hoax entry. —Mark Dominus (talk) 14:55, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete There is something called Ysolo, but it is not mentioned in any of the possible targets: harvest festival, Albania or eggplant. [3] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:25, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete so as to not perpetuate the hoax --Lenticel (talk) 15:16, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where is the discussion determining this is a hoax? Do you mean Nasa, JPL, the IAU and USGS[4] fell for a hoax, or just that the WP article was a hoax? — kwami (talk) 03:40, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, I mean that NASA, JPL, the IAU and USGS fell for the hoax. The hoax was very small, a single sentence inserted into list of harvest festivals in 2012. Aside from thie single sentence, there is no evidence that there ever was an Albanian eggplant festival of any sort. The USGS gazetteer entry cites a blog post (since deleted) which was published after the hoax sentence was inserted into Wikipedia, and which repeats the Wikipedia sentence almost exactly. In any event, even if there really is such a festival, the redirect now points to a nonexistent anchor. —Mark Dominus (talk) 15:56, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. Well, all the more reason for it to be deleted and salted then. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 03:22, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Lists of Presidents of the United States by place of birth[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. JohnCD (talk) 22:46, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not plausible for only one list, not a set index. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:04, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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1 (key)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 18:27, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These have all been retargeted to keypad by @65.94.171.217:, I'm not sure what target is better, for I believe that deletion is best as these are too vague. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:58, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all this is rather useless. There's nothing notable about the keypad version of any of these digits. This isn't Caps Lock AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:05, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete at any rate "keypad" (an article about a block of keys) is a better choice than "numeric keypad" (an article on the portion of a computer keyboard), since telephone keypad has these keys and is not a topic of numeric keypad, and typewriters have these keys and are not covered. -- 65.94.171.217 (talk) 07:18, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all Its something useless. JackTracker (talk) 10:43, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all - I agree. There's no point in retaining these. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 15:48, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Notability baseball[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete all. JohnCD (talk) 14:35, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not an appropriate CNR. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:51, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all per nom. Steel1943 (talk) 18:31, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. If these were long-standing redirects with history, or were clearly targeting pages that were of use to very new users who cannot be expected to have learned about namespaces yet then I would be happy to keep these. On the first point, these are all very new so there is no history-based reason to keep them. On the second point, I think that looking for a general notability standard for Wikipedia as a whole is not unlikley for a very new user, but by the time someone is looking for specific notability guidelines I think it is reasonable that they know to look in the Wikipedia namespace. Thryduulf (talk) 19:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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William Davidson[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Merge Bill Davidson and William Davidson as recommended by Nick Number. And disambiguate, which makes this a bit of a project. I'll work on it. wbm1058 (talk) 13:33, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The current assignment of this redirect seems out of sorts with a William Davidson (disambiguation) that does not include the primary redirect and which can be found at Bill Davidson. The combination of redirects and dab pages need to work together. If this is the main William Davidson, it should be on that dab page and if it is not then the redirect should go elsewhere. TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:40, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Repoint all incoming links for William Davidson to Bill Davidson (businessman).
  2. Move William Davidson (disambiguation) to William Davidson, deleting the existing redirect.
  3. Remove the hatnote from Bill Davidson (businessman).
  4. Merge the entries from Bill Davidson into William Davidson.
  5. Change Bill Davidson and Bill Davidson (disambiguation) to redirect to William Davidson. Nick Number (talk) 19:03, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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2018 in home video[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:32, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not covered in target. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:14, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Inaugurated[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 7#Inaugurated

European Artistic Gymnastics Championships (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Wrong forum. Dcljr, the issue you bring up in this discussion is in regards to the WP:INTDAB guideline, not the state of the redirect itself. Since this discussion is not to retarget or deleted the redirect, it is not in scope of WP:RFD. Any concerns with that guideline should be brought for discussion at Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation (the talk page of the page that WP:INTDAB redirects) or other another related venue. Either way, moving a page over a redirect is a page move and should be requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves, but do keep in mind that the move request (as stated here) goes against the guideline at WP:DABNAME. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 04:25, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Switch content of redirect page and target page, per WP:INTDAB ("the community has adopted the procedure of rerouting all intentional disambiguation links in mainspace through 'Foo (disambiguation)' redirects"). Please note that this is not a request for deletion of anything. - dcljr (talk) 03:49, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note that an intentional dablink to the target page is currently at List of gymnastics competitions. The articles for both genders' competitions are equally appropriate as the target, and linking to both genders' articles separately in that List seems suboptimal. Requesting opinions about the status quo vs. switching the titles and linking to the "(disambiguation)" title instead. An admin will need to accomplish the switch, if that is desired. - dcljr (talk) 04:07, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and speedy close. @Dcljr: The current situation already meets WP:INTDAB. The nomination is to support the current status quo, so I'm not clear on what is being contested. Steel1943 (talk) 04:14, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reinserted the above comment so that the discussion didn't look fragmented since it was here previously. Steel1943 (talk) 04:40, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) It seems that I have completely misread WP:INTDAB. As Emily Litella would say, "Nevermind." - dcljr (talk) 04:28, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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United NationsN[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:31, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense, not recently created. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:20, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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OTAI[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:29, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what this means or how this name has got anything to do with the target, but extremely weak retarget to 'Otai but since this is all capitals, it will not affect searches whatsoever. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:19, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Update It looks like it is created by the infamous Eubot (talk · contribs), I think its about time we open another temporary CSD criterion for redirects created by it. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:29, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. It is an ASCIIfication of “OTAИ”, which is either a mirror image of “NATO” or a faux Cyrillic version of the French “OTAN”. Either way, only a bot would think “OTAI” could plausibly refer to NATO. There is no reason to retarget it to 'Otai. Gorobay (talk) 15:49, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete NATO is not Cyrillic in origin. Otai already redirects to the drink. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:18, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I've found certain organizations that have this acronym but I think they don't have any articles here. --Lenticel (talk) 00:46, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Thomas Mair (alleged assassin)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. The rough consensus is that {{R from move}} and WP:RNEUTRAL mean that there is adequate merit in keeping this redirect. Deryck C. 14:43, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Mair has now been convicted of murder, it is no longer "alleged". Also, there is no consensus that his act constituted assassination. The new target page is a better redirect. WWGB (talk) 02:01, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support redirect - Per nom. Parsley Man (talk) 04:09, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as a {{R from move}}. Regardless of his conviction it also remains the case that he is an alleged assassin - that there is no consensus whether he is one or not does not alter the fact the allegations have been made. Even if this were "(assassin)" WP:RNEUTRAL would apply as there is a notable viewpoint that he is an assassin and so people will likely search for him using that descriptor. Thryduulf (talk) 09:18, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - I feel like we should retain this. After all,"alleged X" and "not X" are quite different things; that he's a convicted accused criminal doesn't change how he's an accused criminal. I also agree that WP:RNEUTRAL applies. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 05:23, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Asbesedos[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 14:30, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't seem to be a valid term, a quick search reveals that many sites are copying this from Wikipedia. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:42, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Cnnexpansión.com[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD (talk) 22:49, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:07, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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