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December 4[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 4, 2016.

McDonald/'s Corporation[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:36, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not plausible for a misspelling, I thought these were "bad titles" but no. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:07, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - This isn't helpful and isn't worth keeping. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:26, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Champion's keyboard may differ, but on my British keyboard layout the apostrophe key is directly above the slash (neither needs a shift), so it's a plausible typo on my keyboard. That being said, we can't cover every possible typo. Si Trew (talk) 10:14, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as implausible. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:05, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Airporgt[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:58, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't get a hit that this is a foreign language, but it does seem to be in the implausible range as far as typos go. Stats are negligible. -- Tavix (talk) 22:01, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - This seems useless. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 00:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Just another typo, and not one that normally seems frequently made (almost all the Google hits seem derived from this redirect), except once a day almost every day between mid January and early February this year for some reason. Thryduulf (talk) 11:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as implausible typo. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:05, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Aeropuerto[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:58, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RFOREIGN -- Tavix (talk) 21:52, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Meliana Trump[edit]

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The result of the discussion was WP:SNOWball keep. (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 23:28, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not plausible, I can't imagine how one could make this sort of typo. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 21:50, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, "Melania" isn't a common name, so we should be a little more lax as to what we allow. 160 pageviews over the last 90 days puts this into the realm of plausible as far as typos go. The typo seems common enough in the wild, a few examples being [1][2][3]. Besides, deletion would just make it harder for those using this redirect to get to where they want to go, which is harmful. -- Tavix (talk) 22:08, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's actually not that hard to imagine how someone could make this sort of typo; "Melania" is an unusual enough name to North American English speakers that I can easily see people being incorrect about how it's actually spelled (or even knowing how to spell it correctly but mistyping it anyway because their fingers were working a bit faster than their brains), and as Tavix demonstrates above there really are real-world examples of it really happening. Not at all implausible. Bearcat (talk) 22:18, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to this site the name "Donald" as a baby name has risen 74 spots since 2015 but "Melania" has dropped, I don't 100% trust the accuracy of this site, but I don't get how this is inconsistent, however, I agree it is not a common name at least currently, but I expect it to get more popular, also "Ivanka" has hugely risen. I still have not changed my opinion on the redirect, but not sure if it will become any more plausible by the end on 2017. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 22:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What more evidence of plausibility do you need than the links Tavix has shown above in which this exact error has already happened? Bearcat (talk) 00:30, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Predicting that Melania will become more popular as a baby name has no bearing on the plausibility of Meliana as a misspelling. — Sam Sailor 14:31, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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VF2281[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:32, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. As with Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 October 16#VF2477, this is an unnecessary and unhelpful redirect from the call sign of a specific low-power radio transmitter to a broad overview article about the general concept of radio call signs in Canada — the article certainly provides a general explanation of what "VF" stations are, but the target contains no information at all about this VF station in particular. Which means the redirect is virtually pointless, because in the remarkably unlikely event that anybody actually searches for this at all the target isn't going to tell them anything about it. Bearcat (talk) 20:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. The article gives a couple of examples of what sort of thing VF2281 might be, but no information about what specific thing it actually is or indeed anything else about it. If we had a list of call signs I would consider retargetting it there, but it doesn't seem to be that we do. Thryduulf (talk) 11:48, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 04:44, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. We need not make redirects for every plausible permutation of call signs. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:10, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:WI[edit]

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn by nominator (see comments below). (non-admin closure) Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User Herostratus posted about this redirect at WT:NOT some time ago and didn't get any input, so they boldly redirected the shortcut to its current target. This has broken some old discussions, but "fixed" others, however its historical use as a shortcut to NOT seems as though it ought to be preferred. Suggest therefore that it should be retargeted back to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:16, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nom comment - the use of WI as a shortcut seems to be an initialism for "Wikipedia Isn't", per this discussion. Maybe that's stretching? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • The redirect should never have been created in the first place, my bad. Wisconsin seems a more reasonable target to me. If you're worried about old discussions, that could be fixed with a bot. ··gracefool 💬 22:33, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I checked that the only links were to discussions, mostly archived discussions. I wouldn't worry too much about letting archived discussions control our actions going forward. "Wikipedia Isn't" is too much of a stretch IMO. IMO having a redirect that is so non-obvious is more confusing than helpful, and a net negative. Other redirects are to state projects, e.g. WP:IL goes to WikiProject Illinois and so forth. Herostratus (talk) 01:11, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment whichever target is chosen there should be a hatnote to the other, noting historical use if Wisconsin is chosen as this will reduce confusion for anyone following links from old discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 11:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn - assuming there to be consensus for the change(s) I have gone ahead and done them. I went through the "what links here" for WP:WI, where there are a series of discussions which I think don't need to be corrected (it's just a shortcut) but there are also a handful of lists scattered about where users have tried to compile lists of the two-letter shortcuts which provided a link with context indicating it linked to this policy, which it no longer does; I removed those entries. I've also added a hatnote at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wisconsin regarding the shortcut. @Herostratus: I noticed while doing this that you've changed some other two-letter shortcuts with historical usage (WP:MI, at least) which I'm sure is fine, but I think you should do these checks for any others that you've retargeted. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:26, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Balangu[edit]

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The result of the discussion was dabify. --BDD (talk) 17:51, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

open for discussion -- balangu is an entry on Cuisine of Nigeria, and is being redirected to Balangan, a place in Iran, clearly an issue; not familiar enough with either one really to assess the best practice here. Just trying to reference/link the Nigerian page. Elinruby (talk) 20:01, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Euromilhoes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:50, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. as WP:RFD#D8 per WP:RFOREIGN. No particular affinity to Portuguese. Euromilhoes is a Eubot creation from the other. We don't have it in any other language (not that that matters, but just for info: I checked.) Euromilhões was used in one article, for a TV show of that name: I've unlinked that because the show and the lottery are not the same thing. The other has no article links. Combined page views are 16+31=47 in 90 days. Si Trew (talk) 16:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Stroem Vodka[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 17#Stroem Vodka

Tomas Cardinal O Fiaich[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by me. (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 06:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all. The two without diacritics are Eubot creations; the other two are {{R from page move}}s. Nevertheless, they seem rather unlikely search term with the "Cardinal" after the "Tomás", Google gives me just one hit: APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP ANCIENT ORDER OF HIBERNIANS IN AMERICA, INC where it's the "Tomás Cardinal O'Fiaich Division". Is it reasonable to put "Cardinal" after someone's first name? Because we've already a redirect such as Cardinal Tomas O Fiaich so it's not as deleting these will make it harder to find the man; hits are 37 combined in 90 days, no article links to any except three to Tomás Cardinal Ó Fiaich (which contributes 33 of the 37 hits). Si Trew (talk) 15:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep all. Per Cardinal (Catholic Church)#Title_and_reference_style, Cardinals sign by placing the title "Cardinal" (abbreviated Card.) after their personal name and before their surname as, for instance, "John Card(inal) Doe". Some sources also recommend that format when referring to them in English, tho this appears not to be the majority view. It is surprising that the nominator appears not to have checked this before making the nomination.
    Additionally, this name format is more widely-used than the nominator claims. A search for the string "Tomas Cardinal O Fiaich" gives 27 hits on Gbooks and 7 hits on Gscholar. JSTOR gives 4 hits. It is always a good idea to link to Google searches so that other editors can verify the results, and it would be helpful to see what Google searches the nominator conducted in this case to obtain only one hit.
    Note that other Cardinals also receive a significant number of Ghits for the format:
  1. Cardinal Joseph W. Tobin: 33 Ghits for "Joseph Cardinal Tobin", despite being in office for less than one month
  2. Cardinal Basil Hume 121 ghits for "Basil Cardinal Hume".
So I see no basis for the nom's claim that this format is an "unlikely search term" for a cardinal. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:15, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment the claim that these are unlikely search terms is supported by the stats I gave. It's pointless to give either the Gsearch search term or its results, because gsearch is dynamic and others are unlikely to reproduce them. I did an exact-term match and discarded the results that didnát exactly match (gsearch does not actually do a verbatim match.) Si Trew (talk) 06:34, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Guemrue[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 17#Guemrue

BloeoedHag[edit]

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The result of the discussion was dëlëtë. -- Tavix (talk) 03:38, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete. The target uses metal umlauts, not Germanic umlauts. WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. (Funny though.) Si Trew (talk) 12:49, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. That is amusing, I agree, but "amusing" is not grounds for retaining a functionally pointless redirect. Bearcat (talk) 00:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Centrism in Hong Kong[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that Deryck, I looked at the wrong name on that side of the diff (i.e. yours in the edit summary rather than Lmmnhn's which, on my screen, appears immediately above it). Si Trew (talk) 20:59, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete none of the so called "middle-of-the road" parties actually are centrist parties. In the Hong Kong context, the "middle-of-the-road" means an alternative path between the pro-democrats and pro-Beijing camp and it's not what "centrism" is about. Lmmnhn (talk) 12:02, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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WSMHS[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 17:45, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There is no much evidence that WSMHS is generally referred to the specified target. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 10:12, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Duesseldorf-Pempelfort[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. -- Tavix (talk) 03:03, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Delete. "Duesseldorf" is not used in the target, and "Dusseldorf" would be the normal English spelling. Duesseldorf is an {{R from other spelling}} but this one is pushing it. No internal links, three hits in ninety days. Si Trew (talk) 10:07, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - The German diacritic "ü" is commonly rendered as "ue" when it's not possible to type "ü". So "Düsseldorf"-anything may be "Duesseldorf"-anything. WhisperToMe (talk) 10:18, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that follows: the stats and links seem to show that very few (if any) people, render Dusseldorf-Pempelfort as Duesseldorf-Pempelfort when searching or linking. The whole premiss of these Eubot redirects is that "anything with a 'ü' can be transliterated as 'ue'"; I don't accept that premiss (even for German ones) when there's a well-established anglicised form. In this case, the anglicised form of "Düsseldorf" is Dusseldorf, not Duesseldorf. When we have place-names that have been truly anglicised, I don't think it's helpful to keep them in some bastardized half-German, half-English variant. It's a different matter for place-names that have not gone native, which are the vast majority.
In fact, even the Duesseldorf R only averages six or seven hits a day (with a massive spike to 199 on 22 September, for some reason), and is linked from precisely nowhere, although it is used in quite a few articles. But I'm not suggesting to delete that, I'm nominating this particular redirect. Si Trew (talk) 10:22, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Luis César Sánchez Domínguez[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 17#Luis César Sánchez Domínguez

Den doeda vinkeln[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by me. (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 15:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Weak delete. Another Swedish one. I've been hanging off of listing the Swedish ones, as Swedish is a Germanic language, but I don't think they really make much sense. Gsearch brings up nothing for this transliteration. 3 hits in 90 days, no internal links. Si Trew (talk) 09:43, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Alphonse II[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget. --BDD (talk) 17:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to the DAB at Alfonso II, I think, as {{R from other language}}, and add the target there (perhaps as a See Also)? Certainly the Duke of A and C does not seem to be the only person who could be referred to as "Alphonse II". Si Trew (talk) 09:33, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to disambiguation per nomination. A google search on the exact phrase brings up the Alfonso II of Asturias, and Alfonso II of Aragon and Alfonso II, Count of Provence as the first, third and fifth hits (the second, fourth and sixth are the fr.wp articles about 1, 3 and 5 respectively). The current target is not in the first three pages of results. Thryduulf (talk) 09:46, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, probably {{R from other language|fr}} in particular, then. We can add other language cats if we need to. Si Trew (talk) 10:20, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Team Fortress 3[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 00:44, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism redirect. Team Fortress 3 is non-existant. Not related to the target at all. The1337gamer (talk) 09:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target. Not at Team Fortress 2 or Team Fortress Classic, either. Incidentally, Team Fortress targets the latter, but I'm not sure whether that's WP:XY: perhaps hatnotes in the two articles would be good? I'm no gamer so I don't know if one or the other would be the "primary topic" for the redirect. Si Trew (talk) 09:36, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I'm no gamer, but when searching for "Team Fortress 3" I did find several articles saying "Overwatch is basically Team Fortress 3" (in various ways) so clearly there is some logic to the current redirect, but there is no mention of the exact phrase anywhere in article space other than the title of this redirect so I don't think it's good as it stands. I'll leave a note for the video games project though as subject experts may be able to offer alternative suggestions. Thryduulf (talk) 09:57, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It's a joke redirect. Valve, the developers behind Team Fortress 2 are infamous for never releasing 3rd installments for their franchises, and since Overwatch has similarities to Team Fortress 2 in terms of art style and gameplay, some gamers think of it as a spiritual successor to Team Fortress 2, despite being made by a different company. So the joke is that Overwatch "is" Team Fortress 3 since Valve will never release the real Team Fortress 3. CurlyWi (talk) 10:53, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete While a Half-Life 3 has been discussed (and its non-existence an actually point of discussion in media), TF3 is not anywhere close to the same level of interest. And I've also not seen any serious talk that OW is effectively TF3 and even if that was the case, SimonTrew's point on confusion would be 100% appropriate. --MASEM (t) 15:22, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, and warn the creator of the redirect that any further creations of such redirects may result in a block. Gamingforfun365 (talk) 18:11, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete There is no evidence that OW is TF3. IF OW was TF3, they would have climbed the highest mountain and shouted it to the world. But it's not. This is a erroneous redirect and should be deleted to help stop the spreading of this rumor.Toplar Scarre (talk) 18:22, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Obviously erroneous. The Team Fortress series and Overwatch aren't even developed or published by the same companies. Steel1943 (talk) 21:59, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Taken to WP:CSD as {{db-xfd}} (WP:G6), remarking that it's a WP:SNOW delete. I note that on creating its talk page to add the SNOW explanation, I got a warning that I was recreating a deleted page, so I imagine the target itself has been deleted previously. Si Trew (talk) 22:09, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Right, I forgot that I've PRODed it once and RfD it once previously: Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_8#Team_Fortress_3. Someone should salt the page to prevent it being recreated again. --The1337gamer (talk) 22:22, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Alfonso de Borbón Dampierre, Duke of Cádiz[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 16:54, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete. The second one is a Eubot creation from the first. They both have a mix of "de" and "of" so are not very good transliterations. "Borbon Dampierre" is not used at the target, with or without the accent. Si Trew (talk) 09:30, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment translating "de" → "of" in a title but not in a name is not uncommon in English language sources about nobility so these should not be deleted solely for that reason. I don't currently have a view on whether or not they should be deleted for other reasons though. Thryduulf (talk) 10:04, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with you, we often keep "de" in the English name (e.g. de Montfort, d'Urberville and De'Ath, let alone Delevingne); but here we don't actually have the name "Borbon Dampierre" or "de Borbon Dampierre" at all (nor versions with the accents, Borbón Dampierre and de Borbón Dampierre), so I'm not sure this is actually part of a name... I was more really going for WP:RfD#D2, not at target; it's "Borbón y Dampierre" so I suppose "Borbon and Dampierre" makes more sense. "Si Trew (talk) 10:15, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Globalive Wireless[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. There is clearly no appetite for deletion, but no consensus on whether it should point to the current target or not. I find the arguments in favour of keeping slightly stronger but not enough for an outright keep result, particularly since a non consensus closure results in the same experience for a user of the redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 10:42, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect does not get pageviews (https://tools.wmflabs.org/redirectviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&page=Freedom_Mobile). Daylen (talk) 04:42, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to Globalive. It looks like Wind/Freedom Mobile isn't their only service that can be described as wireless. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:29, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This looks like the only thing that would be described as Globalive Wireless. Redirects are not required to be used to be kept. Lack of use, like incoming links, is not alone a reason to delete. Of course, it's a different matter if the term is wrong, offensive, or obscure, but "globalive wireless" -wikipedia shows it in use and referring to Freedom Mobile and associated properties. --BDD (talk) 18:10, 2 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, what's this relisting? This is December 4. Si Trew (talk) 09:10, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Good-faith error by Champion, it seems. I think I've fixed it. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 20:21, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keskuel[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete, in each case not Germanic umlaut but a letter in the Turkish alphabet. Si Trew (talk) 08:48, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Moenchaltorf (Zuerich)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:39, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete. Not how we spell Zurich, in fact it's not even how Zurich spells Zuerich except in a couple of Web addresses, so this is a weird transliteration. No doubt used "Zuerich" is used this way in the wild, but this is the English Wikipedia and if the transliteration is there to help English readers then it's not really sensible to disambiguate with "Zuerich". These have come by way of Mönchaltorf (Zürich) and Volken (Zürich) (which are marked as {{R to Swiss municipality (canton)}}: these aren't). Si Trew (talk) 08:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Puencogling[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete. Not Germanic umlaut but transliteration of Chinese or Tibetan? Oddly, the target doesn't use the accent in the lede but just calls it Puncogling, but its title, and use in the navbox, is with the accent. Si Trew (talk) 08:31, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Ferenc Foeldes High School[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete as WP:RFD#D5 nonsense, not a Germanic umlaut but a letter in the Hungarian alphabet. "Fueloep Beck O" also has very weird word order, while in Hungarian this would be "Beck Ö. Fülöp" (as the article states), that doesn't make "O" part of the surname here: it's actually the initial of the first name, and "Fülöp" is the middle name. For example my name in Hungarian order would be "Trew S. Mark", not "Trew Simon M" (but foreigners' names keep their usual order). Si Trew (talk) 08:14, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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LAptops[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:39, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:COSTLY implausible, note that LAptop is red, searching this would make no difference due to how the search engine is case insensitive. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:09, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Low energy[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:30, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Newly created, meaningless redirect. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:50, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Malia Obama (First Daughter)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. --BDD (talk) 17:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Article originally created by now blocked [and [Special:Contributions/Shorwak]] and is implausible redirect, since any stand-alone article would be Malia Obama. Suggest deleting and salting this article / redirect. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:22, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep for nowas {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} and {{R to section}}. I can't tag it as such because it's been page protected by User:SlimVirgin, for some reason. It goes to the same plce as Malia Obama, which is also page protected. While she won't be the "First Daughter" of the President for much longer, she'll still be the first daughter of Barack Obama, so it's a valid if unlikely redirect. Si Trew (talk) 07:58, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for now, for there is currently an RfC taking place regarding this subject and I feel like this should not be discussed here until there is a result for that RfC. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:02, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Added "for now" to my "keep", but I don't see the harm in tagging it early; any change from "keep" will require a change in tagging it anyway. Si Trew (talk) 08:41, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, not just for now. We would keep "first lady" as a disambiguator even after the person in question left office (is that the right term?) so the only reason to change this is if there is a different Malia Obama who is the first-born daughter of a head of state, in which case it would become a disambig. Thryduulf (talk) 10:20, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Thryduulf. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:18, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Souptik Chakraborty[edit]

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Lovely Maitra[edit]

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Fahim Mirza[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 17#Fahim Mizra

Joshua Fass[edit]

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Mīr ʿAlī Schīr Navā'ī[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by nominator, me. (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 15:34, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete per WP:TITLE, we don't have titles in titles, and Mīr is a title (honorific). Since this is not a title familiar to an English-speaking audience, and we haven't an article about it, its presence is WP:RFD#D2 confusing. We don't have M. Mitterand for example. I'm not sure that whacking the accent off of "Mir" makes it more understandable. Si Trew (talk) 02:42, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. "Mīr" isn't a regular title like "Mr" or "Revd". I'm used to seeing pre-modern poets or religious leaders referred to with "Mīr" prefixed to their names in contexts when a title wouldn't have normally been used. Also, "Mīr" appears in several variants in Navoi's name in his LC authority record. – Uanfala (talk) 12:25, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Frjaslyndi Flokkurin[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Delete. The redirect on which this is based, Frjáslyndi_Flokkurin, is already marked as {{R from misspelling|Frjálslyndi flokkurinn}}. There's no need to compound the felony. (It's marked as {{R from alternative language|is}} too, which this isn't). Si Trew (talk) 02:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Global China Connection (Chinese)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:26, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible search term from invalid disambiguatior. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 02:31, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak delete. That it's based in Washington, D.C. tends to indicate it's not particularly (chinese). But I see little harm in it. Si Trew (talk) 02:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - I don't see why anyone would search for "Global China Connection (Chinese)". Regardless, the article being redirected to would show up first in the search results. LoudLizard (📞 | contribs | ✉) 12:31, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete; contains unnecessary disambiguator. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 01:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The PS1,000,000 Bank Note and Other New Stories[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:24, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Delete as WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. I presume somehow "£" has been transliterated as "PS" for "pound sterling": an abbreviation that is a new one on me. It's marked, of course, as {{R from title without diacritics}}, but I see no diacritics. It's not as if we have "The GBP 1,000,000 Bank Note and Other New Stories". Si Trew (talk) 02:25, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Moelnlycke[edit]

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The result of the discussion was 'Withdrawn by me. (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 15:39, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Delete. Another Swedish one. Although Swedish is Germanic, I don't think we usually would apply the transliteration of a Germanic umlaut as "oe" to it, would we? If we would I'll stop listing the Swedish ones. Si Trew (talk) 02:23, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to the info provided by User:Hegvald, above at #Kräftor, above: I'll stop listing the Swedish ones unless they are particularly problematic. Si Trew (talk) 15:38, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Langnaes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by me. (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 15:42, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete, not German. Si Trew (talk) 02:20, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Département of Lot and Garonne[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 03:21, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both WP:RFD#D8, mix of French "Departement" and English the rest of it. Affinity to French, but not to franglais. Si Trew (talk) 02:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Antinoues[edit]

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Municipality of Gaellivare[edit]

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Kraftor[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. --BDD (talk) 17:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot), follows from #Kräftor, below, to say WP:RFD#D8 and WP:RFD#D2 delete. No links, 3 hits in 90 days. Si Trew (talk) 02:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Kräftor[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:06, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just guessed wrong: definitely no affinity to German, then! I did try to find the language for this, but obviously not very hard since we have sv:Kräftor. Still, no particular affinity to Swedish either. Incidentally, User:Hegvald, there are a lot of redirects created by User:Eubot from Swedish that have been transliterated with "ö" as "oe", e.g. Christer Sjögren as Christer Sjoegren. I don't know if these make sense (in general) or not; Swedish_alphabet#Accented_letters is silent on the subject and I didn't get much joy from a wider gsearch. Can you help? Si Trew (talk) 09:56, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
While in German, ö>oe is standard and sometimes used for indexing in a way it isn't in Swedish, one will still on occasion see oe, ae and aa (for å) used in Swedish, mostly when there are technical limitations (as in the early years of the internet; I remember using these spellings in the 90s when writing e-mail through a system that couldn't handle the letters with diacritics, and I wasn't alone in doing this). There are also Swedish surnames that use ae or oe; this was originally probably limited to latinized, "learned" names, such as Læstadius or Thermænius (which may be written with or without the ligature, dependent on technical limitations and personal preference) or names of families of Danish origin, but one does see ae or æ used in names with a Swedish etymology, such as Bæckström (=Bäckström), where it is a purely cosmetic issue (like using the spelling Smythe for Smith), although no doubt often of significance to the identity of the family or individual in question.
Sorry if this was a less clear-cut comment than you wanted. As for the redirects, I find them harmless at worst, and they may sometimes actually be useful. Unless they are needed for a title of another article or problematic in some other particular way, I would think it better to keep them. --Hegvald (talk) 12:15, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Hegvald: I'll stop listing them here then, unless they're a particular problem. I'd already skipped listing them until I had more consensus on whether we should keep them. Nevertheless, they should probably be rcatted as {{R from other spelling}}, not {{R from title without diacritics}}. Si Trew (talk) 15:01, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:FORRED. The target subject is not exclusive to Sweden or Swedish-speaking locales. Steel1943 (talk) 03:25, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Olafsfjoerdhur[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:10, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Delete. In English, a fjord is a fjord, not a fjoerd. This is by way of Ólafsfjördhur. Si Trew (talk) 02:00, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Kotylion (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:07, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all. No entries at the target are for any of these forms. Kotylio doesn't hatnote to the DAB. Kotylion is red. Kotilio is red. Kotílio is red. Kotýlio is red. Kotýlion is red. Presumably, then, we don't any of these disambiguations. Actually, their presence just makes everything more ambiguous and WP:RFD#D2 confusing. Si Trew (talk) 01:42, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Erik Marks von Wuertemberg[edit]

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Baellstaan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn by me. (non-admin closure) Si Trew (talk) 15:48, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Not sure. Germanic umlaut but not German. Weak delete. Si Trew (talk) 01:35, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Tiranio[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 02:06, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete. Not at target and my Google search suggests that this is WP:RFD#D5 nonsense, I can't find this word-form in any language except Esperanto meaning "Tyranny" (from Wiktionary). This was created from the base R of Tiranё, I dont know how the bot decided an "ё" should be an "io". Si Trew (talk) 01:23, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Io is a common way to render the pronunciation of Russian ё, but there's nothing specifically Russian about the capital of Albania. – Uanfala (talk) 02:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I hadn't realised that was U+0451 : CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER IO, I had assumed it was U+00EB : LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH DIAERESIS. That makes the source redirect weird too, as a mix of Latin and Cyrillic characters. I'll list that separately, presumably at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2016_December_5#Tiranё. Si Trew (talk) 06:50, 5 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Égalité[edit]

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Tišina (občina)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 01:52, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot for the non-diacritics one). This is a bit of a weird disambiguation, because we don't have an English article for sl:Občina Tišina, so really we don't need to disambiguate that we're talking about the town but not the Občina. I find it odd we don't have an article for it, when French, German and Spanish etc (i.e. other large Wikipedias) do... I wonder if it needs retargeting somehow. The one with the diacritics is an {{R from move}} of 2006, but in other WPs the town and the občina are distinct, so I wonder if this is just WP:RFD#D2 confusing to have them as the same thing. Si Trew (talk) 00:41, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete or retarget after the creation of the article Municipality of Tišina (separate from the article on the town; like it has been done for several other Slovenian municipalities). --Eleassar my talk 14:27, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Ernst Augustus of Hanover[edit]

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Ernst August, Duke of Brunswick-Lueneburg[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 01:49, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot). I have come over with a dose of the Windischgratzes here. This is a mix of German ("Ernst"), English, and English transliteration of German ("Lueneburg"). We have forty-seven more redirects to this target, which I'll argue is far too many. (It's not a question of WP:RCHEAP, it's a question of "clutter": having forty-seven different ways to refer to the same person in an article encourages editors to be inconsistent: and things like elision and so on are what pipes are for). I better batch them, but will start with this one. It is not, as proclaimed, a {{R from title without diacritics}}. Si Trew (talk) 00:14, 4 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Guerol Guenduez Azer[edit]

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