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December 25[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 25, 2016.

A helixes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not a synonym for alpha helix. Narky Blert (talk) 21:14, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. I've combined these two (same nom, same rationale, same target). Both by Eubot. Delete as WP:RFD#D8. Perhaps because of the likely confusion (at least for the singular), these don't seem to be used much in sources:P yet were it simply because of confusion with the indefinite article, one would expect to see "B male" and so on. I'm wondering what has been done (if anything) with the names of American fraternities and sororities which are frequently Greek (and of which I have absolutely no knowledge at all so saying someone is a Phi Beta Kappa or something to me just suggests you're using some odd euphemism). Si Trew (talk) 02:15, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment scientists are very careful with cases and alphabets. E.g. mn, Mn, mN, MN and Mn all have well-established, different, meanings. Narky Blert (talk) 16:25, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete Yes, the A looks like alpha but there is already A-helix to take care of those instances. Term is not used without the hyphen or dash. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:38, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete all per AngusWOOF. Steel1943 (talk) 17:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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A male[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not a synonym for alpha male. Narky Blert (talk) 21:06, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. News articles and media use alpha male with abbreviation to alpha not to A. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:40, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, and since the phrase "A male" is ambiguous unless it's defined. Steel1943 (talk) 17:57, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per the above CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 11:10, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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A particle[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) As well as being rather WP:XY, it seems like this is not used in sources to describe alpha particles (or α particles), probably because they are called "alpha particles". Weak delete as WP:RFD#D8. We don't have B particle or G ray, and conversely we don't have Chi ray because it's not a transliteration of Greek letter Chi (but we do have Ray Chi). Si Trew (talk) 14:36, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I've never seen alpha particle written with 'A' (Greek uppercase) or beta particle written with 'B' (Greek uppercase); only α or β (lowercase) respectively. Worse, this redirect allows links like "if only he had a particle of common sense". Further, {{R from title without diacritics}} makes no sense at all Narky Blert (talk) 16:12, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Eubot slapped {{R from title without diacritics}} on everything of this kind, including changes of alphabet, and redirects to titles that do not have diacritics (because they were created from a redirect that does). Si Trew (talk) 16:43, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The first letter of titles is always capitalised but links are case insensitive, so this is the same as a particle, and α particle and Α particle (Greek "Α" not Latin "A") are the same redirect, so the case is not relevant here. Thryduulf (talk) 20:03, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm expecting to see A-amino acid next. The nonsensical redirects A helix and A male already exist (I dreamt those last two up as jokes - but found that they already exist; so, not funny at all - or useful). :-( Narky Blert (talk) 20:59, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I've just nominated A helix and A male, and the equally-useless A helixes - all from 2008??? That's another half-hour of my life I won't get back, doing that. Narky Blert (talk) 21:32, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They're from 2008 because that's when the Eubot did the run. Incidentally, I've not actually tracked down that it was ever given approval – or it was ever even discussed – for it to do the particular run for these "diacritical marks" redirects. The last approval I could find was for User:Eubot was Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Eubot_5 of June 2008. I am slightly more imagnitive than to think any subsequent approval would be Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/Eubot_6 but I've not found a bot approval (or even discussion) by searching it in anything I could think of. Si Trew (talk) 02:15, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hafif Muezik[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 14:07, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Foeldes Ferenc Gimnazium[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. This is still in Hungarian name order, using Hungarian words, so it makes no sense at all to Germanize the Hungarian spelling. Si Trew (talk) 14:04, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Tsogt-Ovoo, Omnoegovi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) WP:RFD#D8, 'Delete, not Germanic but Mongolian. Here one diacritical mark has been docked as "O" and the other as "oe". Si Trew (talk) 14:00, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Jaan Raeaets[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Estonian. Si Trew (talk) 13:56, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Fueloepszallas[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 13:51, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Laboratorio N[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) — Godsy (TALKCONT) 18:47, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) 'Delete. I get a hit for Laboratorio N here, but that's a different group/event I think, taking place in 2011. Thus this is either WP:REDLINK or, I would say, WP:RFD#D8 because when the letter/diacritic "Ñ" stands alone like this, it's a bit nonsense to substitute it with "N" since it's the distinguishing mark of this laboratorio. Si Trew (talk) 13:45, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Tiny Underwater Hippo[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not a recognized/not notable/invented name for the subject. Steel1943 (talk) 13:43, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Just because a nickname is used occasionally by some individuals doesn't mean that it makes for a good redirect. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:36, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete WP:NEOLOGISM by news article and aquarium. Hasn't stuck long enough to be an official nickname as opposed to a description. [1] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:43, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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USS G-1 (SS-191/2)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Keep (non-admin closure) - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not sure. This is not the number of the ship, and it looks like nobody searches for it this way: two hits in ninety days, both after we started discussing Eubot redirects. However I do get ghits for it, which at first sight are not simply Wikipedia scrapes e.g. here at patriotfiles.com as my first hit. No doubt Eubot got here via sailing the wrong line, but might have arrived at the right port of call anyway. Si Trew (talk) 13:32, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Y. Vaeisaelae[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Finnish. Si Trew (talk) 13:27, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Vilho Vaeisaelae[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Finnish. Si Trew (talk) 13:26, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Vaeisaelae (crater)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete both, there's no need to vaeisaelate over these ones when there are perfectly good R's at Vaisala crater and Vaisala (crater). Not Germanic but Finnish. Similar redirects exist to the other entries at Vaeisaelae (disambiguation). Oh, they don't: that DAB's at Väisälä. All my Gsearch results for that are geodata based results, which either come from slurping Wikipedia or from an equally inane substitution in some geographical information system. Si Trew (talk) 13:20, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Khan khongor, Omnoegovi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Mongolian. Si Trew (talk) 13:16, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Baf Ulkue Yurdu Spor Kuluebue[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete all, WP:RFD#D8. Not Germanic but Turkish. Since "Spor Kulübü" is an import of English "Sports Club", who cannot admire the work of a bot that then takes it, assumes it is German, and transliterates it as "Spor Kuluebue" at the English Wikipedia? Si Trew (talk) 13:05, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Lutepaeae[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete as WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Estonian. As for all of these kind, Eubot has also created Lutepaa, so it made a sensible R without diacritics before making this nonsense one. Si Trew (talk) 13:02, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Luekati[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Estonian. Si Trew (talk) 13:01, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Altinoezue[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 12:59, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Roeykkae[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Not Germanic but Finnish, and I'm not sure that this makes sense with the trailing "ae". Si Trew (talk) 12:57, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Moetley Records[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) WP:RFD#D8 Delete. Not a Germanic umlaut but a metal umlaut. Si Trew (talk) 12:54, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Kraem (sa naera far ingen ga)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D5 nonsense. This is the name of a song, and actually Kräm is all that is needed to find that out, although I suppose Kram (sa nara far ingen ga) is OK. It's nonsense to have a redirect where neither the name of the song nor the name of the "disambiguator" for the song (it's not WP disambiguating here but the full title of the song) is correct. Is anyone ever going to search this way? Hits of 3 in 90 days – all in the last six weeks since we started discussing Eubot redirects – suggest not. Results of a source search suggest not; there are a couple of uses on Russian music sites and one on Danish, but this is the English Wikipedia so transliterations need to make sense to an English audience, and I suggest this is just too far out. Anyone who's going to knock the tops off the "å"s is not going to bother to insert a couple of "e"s. Si Trew (talk) 12:44, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Tony Pena (disambiguation)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) — Godsy (TALKCONT) 18:38, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not sure. Nobody at the target DAB uses the name "Tony Pena" but "Tony Peña"; if there's only one person who does/did use that name (Villano IV), as the DAB states, then there's no need for the disambiguation and Tony Pena can go there instead of to Tony Peña, where it currently goes. However, there's no mention of that name in Villano IV, so that would be a bit of a surprise. It's probably the best of a bad job to keep it, but this is a bit misleading to imply that we need to disambiguate "Tony Pena" when we don't. Si Trew (talk) 12:40, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • keep. People do search directly for disambiguation pages, and there is no reason to make it harder for them to find what they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 15:33, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not suggesting they don't. But since according to WP there's only one Tony Pena, namely Villano IV, but several Tony Peñas (to one of which Tony Pena redirects), all we are doing is making it harder for people to find the one person called Tony Pena. That is to say, the diacritics would be important here: but in fact that we don't actually have anything beyond the DAB that says that Villano IV actually was called Tony Pena (or conversely that he was called Tony Peña): nothing in the article says either. The Gsearch results I have are about half-and-half split on whether the wrestler was Tony Pena or Tony Peña, so I'm guessing (since he's Mexican Spanish) it was actually the latter. Si Trew (talk) 16:25, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Zamyn-Uued[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Not Germanic but Mongolian, Delete as WP:RFD#D8. And, why create this but not Zamyn-Ueued? (I know the answer: Eubot didn't transliterate capital letters, but, why not? Don't mind that it didn't, but it rather shows up the lack of thought that went into it. Is it because in German, umlauted letters never occur at the start of Nouns, which tend to have Capital Letters anyway?) Si Trew (talk) 12:35, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom; converting one Ü to U and the other to ue makes this very implausible. (I added Zamin-Uued to this nomination; the same reasoning applies to it as well.) Sideways713 (talk) 14:44, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Goelgede Ayni[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, Not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 11:58, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Zoltan Goencz[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8] Delete, Hungarian. We had Goenc before (at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 14#Goenc); "Göncz" is an older spelling (still in use) of the same family name. Si Trew (talk) 11:52, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Somogybuekkoesd[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete, WP:RFD#D8. Not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 11:45, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Poeide Parish[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete all, WP:RFD#D8. Not Germanic but Estonian. A Gseach for "Poeide" gives me only geographical catalogues and things based on them (weather sites etc), not anything that has actually been created by a human. Considering that they likely use the same naive rules as Eubot did, I don't think they are reliable sources for how this is spelt "in real life". One hit each in ninety days (all on 28 October); no internal links. Si Trew (talk) 11:44, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Gueican[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete per WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but (Latin American) Spanish. Si Trew (talk) 11:24, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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24 Booetis[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Greek. As User:Narky Blert pointed out at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2016 December 16#Antinoues (relisted twice): "the diacritic indicates a double vowel, as it does in e.g. oölite and coöperation. It is totally different from German 'ö' = 'oe'.". Si Trew (talk) 11:21, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Narky Blert (talk) 15:59, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Narky Blert's note and the total lack of views, which confirms this as very implausible. Sideways713 (talk) 14:00, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Suemerbank[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 11:14, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Broes[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 January 7#Broes

Menderes Tuerel[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete both, WP:RFD#D8, Turkish not Germanic. The usual {{R from title without diacritics}} already exist at Menderes Turel and Menderes Mehmet Tevfik Turel, and I've tagged as {{R from long name}} where appropriate. Si Trew (talk) 10:18, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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TEV Inanc Tuerkes Ozel Lisesi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete, WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic. Why did this title get the works? It's nobody's business but the Turks'. Si Trew (talk) 10:10, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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St. Johns--Iberville[edit]

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Myisakyula[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(NOT Eubot). I can't find any sources for this beyond Japanese- and Chinese-English dictionaries that probably culled it from WP; Delete as WP:RFD#D8. Two hits in 90 days (one on the same days as one for below, 16 October). No internal links. I'll tag as {{R from incorrect spelling}} for now. Si Trew (talk) 09:58, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete This is back-and-forth transliteration; what you get when you convert Mõisaküla to Russian Cyrillic and then try to convert that back to a Latin alphabet. All redirects of this type are incorrect spellings, but some of them (e.g. Pyarnu) are useful because the mistake has been made often enough to be a plausible search term. I would say this is not one of the useful ones (the location and the mistake are too obscure) and should accordingly get the axe. Sideways713 (talk) 21:51, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Moisaküla[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(NOT Eubot). This has dropped one diacritical mark but kept another; Delete as WP:RFD#D8. I can't find any uses of this morphology via a Gsearch. Hits are 2 in the 90 days before 19 December, and nothing links to it. Without prejudice I've tagged it as {{R from incorrect spelling}} because it's not a {{R from title without diacritics}}. Si Trew (talk) 09:53, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Moisakuela[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Estonian. I've tagged Möisaküla as {{R from incorrect spelling}}, and Moisakula already exists as an {{R from title without diacritics}}. Si Trew (talk) 09:48, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Federico Doering[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete; not Germanic but Mexican Spanish. I get a hit from a non-RS source at mjlibertario.blogspot.hu/2009/07/este-es-un-texto-de-federico-doering.html but apart from that, not much until a bogus match at myheritage.hu. No internal links, 2 hits in 90 days. Si Trew (talk) 09:41, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Boercs[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 08:52, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Ara Gueler[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) another turkey at Christmas. Well, Turkish. WP:RFD#D8, Delete. Si Trew (talk) 08:49, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Suember[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) not Germanic umlaut but Mongolian. The only source I can find that is even vaguely reasonable is 1worldmap.com/Mongolia/Tov-Aymag/Suember/6618838 but even then I'm inclined to think without any justification that either it's taken its geo information from WP or applied the same crude algorithm as Eubot, I can't find any uses in actual human-written text. WP:RFD#D8, Delete. Si Trew (talk) 08:47, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Khueder, Selenge[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Mongolian. We've kept at least one other Mongolian one before, but I don't get any meaningful sources for this (just front pages of weather site, find-a-name and things like that). We don't have plain Khueder so that might tip the balance in thinking it's not a reasonable transliteration. Si Trew (talk) 08:43, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Arq ei laeaeq[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not Germanic, but Estonian. Eubot has fortunately spared us Aerq ei laeaeq and AErq ei laeaeq, not bothering with capital letters. Two hits in 90 days, no internal links; gsearch gives me "how to say" and lots of Chinese links which look mostly to be culled from WP. WP:RFD#D8, Delete. Arq ei laaq already exists to the target. Si Trew (talk) 08:38, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - this is actually Võro; but regardless of whether we have a consensus to kill ä->ae Estonian (or Võro) redirects in general, treating the Ä in ärq differently from the two Äs in lääq means this is very implausible. Sideways713 (talk) 00:35, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Polan[edit]

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Greatest Hits (Bjoerk album)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Weak delete. Since disambiguators are there primarily as "hints" to which title something might go to, and not as likely search terms in themselves, it makes little sense to have multiple variations on them. While Greatest Hits (Bjork album) probably makes sense, this one probably doesn't. Neither is an {{R from title without diacritics}} in any meaningful sense since it's only the disambiguator that has the diacritic, not the title ("Greatest Hits"). (I think we've had a discussion before, many years ago, about whether the disambiguator is part of the title proper, and I didn't think then, and don't think now, that it is.) Si Trew (talk) 07:59, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. I've never seen the artist's name rendered this way - always either as Björk or Bjork - so as a disambiguator it is very unlikely (but Bjork album should definitely stay). Thryduulf (talk) 11:27, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per Thryduulf AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:52, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Bjoerk[edit]

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Rrroeoeoeaaarrr[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Deléééééte, not three Germanic umlauts, but three metal umlauts. Si Trew (talk) 07:35, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Metal umlauts are always simply omitted if they can't be reproduced in a given environment, never substituted. Thryduulf (talk) 11:28, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Doeloetoe AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:53, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Headdesk and delete. Bearcat (talk) 20:15, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Laether[edit]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Leather (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) – Uanfala (talk) 13:24, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) Not sure. It's the name of an album by Frank Zappa but I'm pretty sure it's not intended as a metal umlaut cos there's a cow on the sleeve art and the WP:FIRSTSENTENCE translates it as "Leather", rather unsurprisingly. So, also unsurprisingly, this is a remarkably likely typo for Leather by transposing the "a" and "e". It might be a bit WP:XY which one to go to, even without that likelihood, since really it's just the German word for the cognate Leather in the first place: in that way, we'd usually say this was WP:FORRED since "Leather" is not particularly German. Don't really know what's best to do with this; perhaps keep, perhaps a hatnote, perhaps just delete it. Si Trew (talk) 07:27, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Goekcekaya Dam[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete, WP:RFD#D8. Another Goe-Dam Turkish one; plain Gokcekaya Dam points to the target already. Si Trew (talk) 06:58, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Roegnvald Kali Kolsson[edit]

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Vecdi Goenuel[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete per WP:RFD#D8, another Turkish delight. Si Trew (talk) 06:08, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Tuebatulabal[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete both as WP:RFD#D8, not a Germanic umlaut but, [mirabile dictu] Error: {{Lang}}: text has italic markup (help), Tübatulabal language. The "straight" redirects Tubatulabal language and Tubatulabal people are fine (Tuebatulabal to the DAB at Tübatulabal also). The only Ghits for verbatim "Tuebatulabal" are for "how to say" sites etc, not real text. One hit between them in ninety days (I'm disregarding one hit each on 21 December, which is the day Champ compiled lists of Eubot redirects.) No internal links to any.

Technical aside. One of these is on Champ's list #1, and another on list #5, just to say in case I forget to remove them (I'm mostly concentrating on list #18 at the moment). One isn't on a list. Si Trew (talk) 05:53, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Eaerwa[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8. I don't know what "language" this is, since it's a "fictional world on which the stories in the Canadian author R. Scott Bakker's The Second Apocalypse series of fantasy novels", according to the lede at the stub target: but I imagine it's not sensible to transliterate the name like this. A search just gives me word-lists, anagrammatisers(?) and so on. No internal links, two hits in ninety days (one each on 3 and 6 October). Si Trew (talk) 05:48, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Markus Niemelae[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Not sure, perhaps WP:RFD#D8. I've been skipping most of the Finnish ones I come across, as we haven't a great deal of consensus on them generally: Finnish is Finno-Ugric, not one of the Germanic languages, but there is a Swedish population of Finland so things might arrive via Swedish into English. But when it comes to agglutinations of vowels that looks strange or foreign in English, such as here where final "ae" is more commonly seen as a Latin plural than a transliteration of "ä", I am even less sure.

I don't know Germanic languages at all, but my feeling is that an umlauted final letter of a word is unusual. Yet I can't find anything telling me so (or otherwise), though. Maybe User:Thryduulf would know. Si Trew (talk) 05:11, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I can't help you with this one - my knowledge of how Swedish is used in Finland is 100% drawn from Wikipedia. Thryduulf (talk) 11:39, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, User:Thryduulf, but is it ever used that way in German? Si Trew (talk) 12:24, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know of a rule that says the last letter of a word cannot have an umlaut, but I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. Thryduulf (talk) 12:29, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Finnish doesn’t ASCIIfy its diacritics like this. For what it’s worth, neither does Swedish. What German does is not relevant here. Gorobay (talk) 18:43, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Kemalettin Sentuerk[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete as WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Tuerkish. Si Trew (talk) 05:04, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Skitting (Stepping)[edit]

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The result of the discussion was keep for now, without prejudice against renominating in several months' time. (non-admin closure) – Uanfala (talk) 13:31, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as useless detritus. This is a redir-from-move, left over from an incorrectly disambiguated article. "Stepping" is an alternative name of skitting; skitting is not a type of stepping. If skitting had to be disambiguated it would be as "skitting (dance)". The redir is also miscapitalized. It's really not plausible that anyone will be looking for the string "Skitting (Stepping)".  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  05:01, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unfortunately "useless detritus" is not one of our deletion criteria, but I suppose always WP:Consensus can change, and I for one will say delete per nom. Si Trew (talk) 05:06, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep purely as a {{R from move}} as the article was at this title for the just over three years between creation and SMcCandlish's move, the latter immediately before nominating here - there is no point in having an encyclopaedia if nobody can find the articles in it. {{R from incorrect disambiguation}} may be a worthwhile tag to place as well though. Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, if it's a recent move that makes sense, but I'm suspicious of the general argument "we have to keep this because someone outside might have a link to it, quoted or copied it, used it in a printed source, etc" as we'd end up not being able to change anything, which also defeats the purpose of making the encyclopaedia a Wiki-based open project. Keep for now. Si Trew (talk) 12:19, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing in this that stops things changing, what it does is ensure that there is a way for people who don't know that the change has happened to still find what they are looking for. Not all redirects from moves need keeping, but the longer a title was in use, the recency of the move, the plausibility of the titles, difference between new and old names, how new and old titles are used outside Wikipedia and the nature of the subject can all affect whether it should be or not. In almost all cases (excluding vandalism, mistakes, temporary moves and similar) where an article has been stable at one title for several years we should keep the resulting redirect for sufficient time for the move to propagate to search engines, mirrors, periodic visitors, etc. The minimum time for this is going to be on the order of months rather than minutes. Thryduulf (talk)
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L calculus[edit]

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Haendel-Werke-Verzeichnis[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete, WP:RFD#D8. The handle of this Händel is that of George Frideric Handel (aka Georg Friedrich Händel), whose name transliterated into English is almost universally Handel. We do have Haendel, not Eubot and not rcatted, as a redirect, but I don't think that necessarily is transitive to derivative works. I get a few YouTube hits with this spelling for his individual works, but it's fairly clear that the majority even of those are not English. I think this is a novel or obscure term for this subject (not the composer but this catalogue of his works). Haendel averages about 12 hits a day, but this averages about one every fifteen days. Si Trew (talk) 04:39, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Koepruelue Mehmed Pasha[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Turk(ish). Si Trew (talk) 04:31, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Metin Hueseyin[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Turkish. The subject is a British-Turkish journalist, where the name seems never to be spelled thus in sources. There does seem to be a non-notable person of this name in Saint Petersburg, Florida (Gsearch gives his phone number). Si Trew (talk) 04:27, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Th (set theory)[edit]

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Buelent Bezduez[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 04:20, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Jueri Kerem[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Estonian. Si Trew (talk) 04:18, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Jolan Foeldes[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 04:16, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Ester Maegi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete, WP:RFD#D8. Not Germanic but Estonian, so this is unbecoming of the Mägi. Si Trew (talk) 04:10, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Konstantin Maerska[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete as WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Estonian. Si Trew (talk) 04:07, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Jozsef Magasfoeldi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(eubot) WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Hungarian. Si Trew (talk) 04:04, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Baki Sueha Ediboglu[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) Delete as WP:RFD#D8, not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 04:00, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Inegoelspor[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not Germanic but Turkish. Si Trew (talk) 03:58, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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History of Mayagueez[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Eubot) WP:RFD#D8, Delete, not a Germanic umlaut but Spanish. Si Trew (talk) 03:56, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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List of disasters against the United States by death toll[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsensical Dawnseeker2000 00:22, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - This is a clumsy bit of phrasing that isn't really helpful. Certainly, the U.S. has suffered many disastrous events that have been intentionally caused, but the list isn't so narrowly defined as such. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 10:29, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete someone searching for "List of disasters" will see the format to be "in the (country)" by death toll. This is the only article that uses a different format. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:45, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:Przeszukiwanie[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. -- Tavix (talk) 15:25, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Don't need foreign language r's in project space. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:06, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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