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July 9[edit]

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 9, 2014.

Gem (band)[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Gem. The consensus is to retarget just to the page and not to the Music section. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 02:57, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing links to this redirect. All previous links to Gem (band) have been migrated to Gem (Dutch band) or Gem (American band), and there is a dab page for Gem. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 21:36, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Retarget to gem where there are three or four things which might be searched for with this term. Alternatively, if this is the primary topic among bands named Gem, no objection to keeping it with a hatnote to gem. Deletion is inappropriate as it's a likely search term and may have inbound links from other websites. Siuenti (talk) 22:30, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to gem per Siuenti. --Lenticel (talk) 01:19, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to Gem#Music: as proposer, I'm swayed by the above comments; just went into Gem and added a specific anchor for a retarget. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 01:31, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to disambiguation page -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 04:31, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to gem. Don't think that retargetting to specific section is needed: currently the DAB isn't too long, and if it ever becomes, there's no guarantee that there will be no other topic where word "band" would make sense as a search term. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 22:50, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Retargeted: nominator requests an admin to please close. Lwarrenwiki (talk) 17:07, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Town Hall and Courthouse[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 22:42, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's no way that someone using the name 'Town Hall and Courthouse' is likely to be thinking of Newport Opera House; it's not a plausible redirect at all. AlexTiefling (talk) 15:51, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The building in question was originally constructed to serve as a town hall and court house (as the existing text of the article says), and the redirect is the name under which it is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. If you think that "Town Hall and Courthouse" should instead be something like a dab page, feel free to set one up, assuming you can find a number of other meaningful entries. Magic♪piano 15:56, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it needed at all? Who is actually going to type this exact four-word phrase when what they want is an opera house? AlexTiefling (talk) 15:59, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Someone might be trying to find it via the National Register listing. Magic♪piano 16:08, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Then it should be piped on the appropriate page; redirects aren't there to stop you writing correctly-pointed wikicode. AlexTiefling (talk) 16:11, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I know how to write correctly-formatted wikicode, thanks. But I can't control what people read (and might enter) from outside wiki. This is the point of redirects, no? Magic♪piano 16:14, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You mean that the NRHP actually calls this building 'Town Hall and Courthouse' without qualification in its own text? Can you provide a link? AlexTiefling (talk) 16:17, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
(The alleged link to the NRHP in the article actually links to a very general and bafflingly conversational page about the entire database; the search box there doesn't work.) AlexTiefling (talk) 16:20, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to the wonderful world of the National Register, where these sorts of things are amazingly (and sometimes annoyingly) common. I'd tell you to enter the string into NPS Focus, but it is sadly highly unreliable, and not returning *any* results at this time. For the moment, I will refer you to this page at NationalRegisterOfHistoricPlaces.com, which mirrors the NR database. Magic♪piano 16:25, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that's something. If I hadn't worked on a similar cock-up here in the UK, I wouldn't believe something like a national heritage database could malfunction so badly. However, the link you've provided doesn't answer the implicit question: is the title you've chosen even unique within the database? AlexTiefling (talk) 16:30, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Parenthetical to TheCatalyst31: the Elkman database is a copy of the NR database setup by a Wikipedia editor, which is up-to-date through about 2010. Magic♪piano 16:36, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
And don't get anyone who works on US NRHP listings started on the reliability of the public interfaces to the registry. Magic♪piano 16:38, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not sure what's going on with NPS Focus' search function right now, but I can confirm through Elkman's NRIS-based infobox creator that "Town Hall and Courthouse" is the official name of this building on the National Register, and that there's no other building on the NR with the same name. Since it's plausible that someone might search for the name used in the National Register listing, or link to it off-wiki, the redirect is a useful search term. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 16:31, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw, then. It's a screwy situation, but you're right - this apparently is what the thing is called by a reliable source. I really, really don't miss working for a national heritage organisation. AlexTiefling (talk) 16:41, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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CN-71[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China as the consensus action. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 03:13, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Officially the abbreviation refers to Taiwan Province, People's Republic of China and not the ROC, perhaps retargeting there would be an option TheChampionMan1234 00:40, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Taïwan[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 August 6#Taïwan

Separate Customs Territory of Taiwan, Kinmen and Matsu[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to Chinese Taipei#Separate Customs Territory of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen, and Matsu. --BDD (talk) 21:20, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The name is not mentioned at the target, but it is at Chinese Taipei and also Foreign relations of Taiwan TheChampionMan1234 00:26, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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