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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 10, 2014.

Power Morphicon[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. Consensus is to keep and, being a long-standing redirect, the necessary harm needed for deletion has not been demonstrated (WP:RFD#HARMFUL). The statements about needing to retain the edit history are correct. Whilst there are alternative methods to keeping the edit history that do not require keeping the redirect, they are significantly more complex so this 'keep' also achieves a cheap solution to this issue. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 01:13, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a valid search term for Power Rangers after it was determined that the section it pointed to was not supported by any independent reliable sources and was removed from the article. This redirect should be deleted. —Ryūlóng (琉竜) 18:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: I re-added material to the article and added first 3 references from sites/groupblogs with editorial oversight I stumbled upon. Definitely the subject is not notable enough for its own article, so this redirect is absolutely OK. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 22:33, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I do not think that these three websites qualify as reliable sources.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:41, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not completely sure about the second one, but the other two have all attributes required by WP:IRS. At very least they are reliable enough to verify the existance of the event, which is sufficient to retain the mention. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 22:49, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah but they're both bloggish. Also, we really do not need to document the event on Wikipedia IMO.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 22:52, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    There is no problem with being bloggish – the only thing that is wrong with blogs as sources is their self-publishing, which is not the case here. (We even have an article about BoingBoing.) And I see no reason to avoid mentioning this event; to the contrary, conventions are an important aspect of such franchises. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 23:11, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Not when thereve only been 3 afaik.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 23:17, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Relisting comment: This looks like a two-editor dispute. The content is currently not at the target page, and at a glance, while the sourcing is somewhat weak, it perhaps could stand. More opinions would be appreciated.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:44, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep we don't declare something "not a valid search term", nor do we require sources (despite what one vociferous editor has been implying elsewhere). This is an old (6 years) and harmless redirect, has required no manual maintenance. Leave it in peace. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:42, 11 July 2014 (UTC).
    It was sources for the retention of the content about the redirect's title (a section on the article).—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:54, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep, if this redirect is deleted; Power Rangers should be deleted too, because content of the former has been merged into the latter article before 2009. Christian75 (talk) 19:35, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    This makes no sense. Why should the article being redirected to be deleted? The reason I'm seeking deletion is because I discovered that there was poor sourcing for the merged content and removed it and therefore saw no need for this redirect to exist any more. There's no longer any content on "Power Morphicon" on the Power Rangers article.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:54, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    Per Wikipedia:Copyright policy edit history should be retained after merge of content. As long as historical revisions of Power Rangers contain text that was copied from this page, it has to be retained. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 03:06, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    That's total BS.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 03:26, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.

People's Republic of Kalifornia[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 August 13

Norman Joseph Wisden[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. As per consensus that this is a plausible search term. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 02:42, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Google: no results found for Norman Joseph Wisden[1] (neither in Google Books). Not every possible typo or mistake needs its own redirect. Fram (talk) 14:02, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep There is widely and long held belief that Wisdom changed his name from Wisden, making this a totally reasonable search term. If (which seems unlikely, but is still possible) it turns out to be true, this is indeed his birth name. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:09, 10 July 2014 (UTC).
  • Keep per Rich Farmbrough. See, e.g. Norman Wisden was born in London on Feb. 4, 1915, into a life more threadbare than any he portrayed on screen. ... Along the way, he changed his name to Wisdom. Fox, Margalit (6 October 2010). "Norman Wisdom, Funnyman, Dies at 95". The New York Times. --Bejnar (talk) 16:59, 10 July 2014 (UTC) Although Rich Farmbrough is correct about the story being apocraphal, as London birth records show he was born as Wisdom, Norman J., in Marylebone, recorded in March. "Index entry". FreeBMD. ONS. p. 1033.. --Bejnar (talk) 17:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Rich Farmbrough. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 23:00, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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