Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 July 28
July 28[edit]
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 28, 2014.
Monster Hunter's Survival Guide[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was Keep. Nomination withdrawn. Paradoctor (talk) 21:55, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Monster Hunter's Survival Guide → Dwayne Johnson (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Also nominating Monster Hunter's Survival Guide (film).
Dwayne Johnson does not mention the project, neither does any other article. Paradoctor (talk) 15:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Actually "Monster Hunter's Survival Guide" is a comic book, it's page should be created and then "Monster Hunter's Survival Guide (film)" will be mentioned on the book page. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 15:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I noticed. But right now there is no content whatsoever, which makes the redirects pointless. Otherwise, we could start maintaining oodles of redirects from potential articles to articles not explaining them. Paradoctor (talk) 16:28, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- I'm going to add content, just wait a bit. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 18:32, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- All fixed now. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 18:59, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Retracting my nomination. Paradoctor (talk) 21:47, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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2014 Grand Prix of Belgium[edit]
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- 2014 Grand Prix of Belgium → 2014 Formula One season (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Redirect was created as a result of a misunderstanding that the naming of Grands Prix had been altered. This has been proven wrong, so this is no longer needed. Tvx1 (talk) 13:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
Similar redirects, added to nomination by User:DH85868993
ones which still redirect to2014 Formula One season (because the corresponding individual race articles don't exist yet)
- 2014 Grand Prix of Italy → 2014 Formula One season (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Singapore → 2014 Formula One season (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Japan → 2014 Formula One season (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of the United States → 2014 Formula One season (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Brazil → 2014 Formula One season (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
ones which originally redirected to 2014 Formula One season but now redirect to corresponding individual race articles
- 2014 Grand Prix of Australia → 2014 Australian Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Malaysia → 2014 Malaysian Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of China → 2014 Chinese Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Bahrain → 2014 Bahrain Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Spain → 2014 Spanish Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Monaco → 2014 Monaco Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Canada → 2014 Canadian Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Great Britain → 2014 British Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Germany → 2014 German Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Hungary → 2014 Hungarian Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Russia → 2014 Russian Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Austria → 2014 Austrian Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 2014 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi → 2014 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Discussion:
- Either:
- Delete all as unnecessary, or
- Keep all (because redirects are cheap) and redirect those which still redirect to 2014 Formula One season to the relevant individual race report article, as those articles are created. If the outcome of this discussion is to keep the redirects, I am willing to do the retargeting for those race articles which don't exist yet, as they are created.
- DH85868993 (talk) 22:35, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I fail to see why you would nominate "of Japan" and not 2014 Japanese Grand Prix, 2014 United States Grand Prix, 2014 Singapore Grand Prix, 2014 Italian Grand Prix, 2014 Brazilian Grand Prix. If they are too far in advance to receive a redirect, then these forms should also be deleted. There's no other reason I can see for deleting it, other than it's WP:CRYSTAL. Why would synonymous terms be deleted, when they are used in the press? Why are we trying to make it hard to find our articles? -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Stubbify "2014 Belgium/Belgian" that's the next race, so it's time to put up a stub. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- keep "2014 GP of X" that redirect to "2014 X-ian GP" forms. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Stubbify "2014 Belgium/Belgian" that's the next race, so it's time to put up a stub. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep all: WP:CRYSTAL does not apply here, because the events are rather certain to happen. Someone should oversee retargetting of redirects currently pointing to 2014 Formula One season to appropriate pages after they are created. Creating such redirects in advance is very bad practice, but now that we have a pattern, their deletion would only needlessly waste storage on Wikipedia servers. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 07:19, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- I am willing to oversee retargetting of redirects currently pointing to 2014 Formula One season to appropriate pages after they are created. DH85868993 (talk) 08:49, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete All These redirects are unnecessary. This way of naming F1 Grands Prix isn't used anywhere. They were created out of the mistaken belief by one user that the official naming of such races had changed, which was proven wrong. They were supposed to be expanded to full articles once the races had actually taken place, but that never happened since this way of naming them turned out to be wrong. No other season articles have redirects to them with similar naming, so there is really no reason to keep only 2014 ones. You can find an overview of the discussion on the naming of the races here. This isn't an issue of to soon or crystal by any means. Tvx1 (talk) 09:45, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- Every article should have a redirect from "Year GP of X" to "Year X-ian GP" forms, since they are used in the world at large. They are viable search terms. They aid navigation. Redirects are not restricted to official names (even article titles are not restricted to official names) -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:55, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- No they shouldn't. None of the articles for the preceding 64 season's race reports have such redirects leading to them and that works just fine. The redirects weren't even created with the purpose of being redirects. They were created with the purpose of evolving into full race report articles. That never happened because the user who created them was wrong. Furthermore the statistics clearly point out that they are not being used at all! They are clearly not as indispensable as you claim them to be. Tvx1 (talk) 19:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Every article should have a redirect from "Year GP of X" to "Year X-ian GP" forms, since they are used in the world at large. They are viable search terms. They aid navigation. Redirects are not restricted to official names (even article titles are not restricted to official names) -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:55, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Comment You should take a look at the stats. Except for the Belgian one, none of them has actually been used. Tvx1 (talk) 12:05, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
- In the real world outside of Wikipedia, these formations are used frequently. [1] [2] [3] etc -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:54, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- That might well be, but the statistics indisputably prove that the redirects are not being used in the way you claim them to be. Tvx1 (talk) 19:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not the sum whole of the world, these are likely terms, as already illustrated from Google. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 06:08, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- That might well be, but the statistics indisputably prove that the redirects are not being used in the way you claim them to be. Tvx1 (talk) 19:48, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- In the real world outside of Wikipedia, these formations are used frequently. [1] [2] [3] etc -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:54, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
- Comment 2014 Belgian Grand Prix has now been converted to an article, so 2014 Grand Prix of Belgium could be retargeted to there instead of 2014 Formula One season, but I wasn't sure whether it was appropriate to do that while this discussion was still ongoing. DH85868993 (talk) 00:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, well-formed and plausible search terms so even with no hits these are harmless andWP:CHEAP applies. Siuenti (talk) 18:21, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per others. These are quite legitimate redirects, with potential both as search terms and as linking targets. — This, that and the other (talk) 09:32, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Keep – perfectly plausible search terms, particularly for non-British readers. Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:40, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
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Seventh-day Adventist Church[edit]
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- Adventistsamfundet → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Église Adventiste du Septième Jour → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Eglise Adventiste du Septieme Jour → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Eglise Adventiste du Septième Jour → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Eglise Adventiste du Séptieme Jour → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Siebenten-Tags-Adventisten → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Sjundedagsadventisterna → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Cresia Abbintista → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Biserica Adventistă de Ziua a Şaptea → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Церковь адвентистов седьмого дня → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Адвенти́сты седьмо́го дня → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Biserica Adventista de Ziua a Saptea → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Biserica Adventistă de Ziua a Saptea → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Biserica Adventista de Ziua a Şaptea → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Адвенти́сты седьмого дня → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Адвентисты седьмого дня → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Адвентисты седьмо́го дня → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Igreja Adventista do Setimo Dia → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Igreja Adventista do Sétimo Dia → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Syvendedagsadventister → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Syvendedags Adventistsamfunnet → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Sövenden-Dags-Adventisten → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Sovenden-Dags-Adventisten → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Kosciol Adwentystow Dnia Siodmego → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Kościół Adwentystów Dnia Siódmego → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Hetednapi Adventista Egyhaz → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Hetednapi Adventista Egyház → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Zevendedagsadventisten → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- セブンスデー・アドベンチスト教会 → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Kerkgenootschap der Zevende-dags Adventisten → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Chiesa cristiana avventista del settimo giorno → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Adventisti sedmog dana → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Crkva Adventista sedmoga dana → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- 제7일안식일예수재림교회 → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Ôn-sit-ngit-fi → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- On-sit-ngit-fi → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Iglesia Adventista del Séptimo Día → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Iglesia Adventista del Septimo Dia → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Εκκλησία Αντβεντιστών της Εβδόμης Ημέρας → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Syvende Dags Adventistkirken → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Adventisté sedmého dne → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Adventiste sedmeho dne → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Església Adventista del Setè Dia → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Esglesia Adventista del Sete Dia → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Църква на адвентистите от седмия ден → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- An-hioh-ji̍t Hōe → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- An-hioh-jit Hoe → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- الأدفنتست أو السبتيون → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Εκκλησια Αντβεντιστων της Εβδομης Ημερας → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Soevenden-Dags-Adventisten → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Biserica Adventistă de Ziua a Șaptea → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Biserica Adventista de Ziua a Șaptea → Seventh-day Adventist Church (links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
The activities of this organization are not limited to any particular region, so it has no specific ties to any language. These redirects should be deleted per WP:NOTDICT and WP:FORRED (for essay haters WP:R#DELETE criterion 8). — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 11:15, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete all WP:NOT a translation dictionary -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 03:47, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
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非死不可[edit]
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I speak Chinese and this sounds like a derogatory term TheChampionMan1234 04:53, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED: derogatory or not, this is redirect from foreign name with no particular ties to the target. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 11:49, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Lenticel (talk) 01:30, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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Demographics of Tibet (disambiguation)[edit]
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- Demographics of Tibet (disambiguation) → Tibet (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
This is not a link to a disambiguation page. TheChampionMan1234 04:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Comment up until 2013 [4] Demographics of Tibet was a disambiguation page, and this pointed there. As there are two demographics of Tibet, perhaps we should just revert to disambiguation page, and repoint this to the dab page. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 06:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete; there was a fairly extensive discussion of the disambiguation question at Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation/Archive_39#Proposal_that_designation_of_a_primary_topic_should_be_inherited_by_subtopics. A new discussion would be needed (and not here) to determine whether the consensus about the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the term has changed. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:23, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete; there was briefly a disambiguation page at the target title, but the concept is clearly unambiguous per WP:DABCONCEPT. bd2412 T 13:09, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 13:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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Political career of Julius Caesar[edit]
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- The result of the discussion was keep and refine target. Undoubtedly the current target doesn't do the job and needs refining. However, the case for deletion has not been made. The cited ground is WP:REDLINK. However, WP:REDYES cautions that "The topic may well be covered in a section of another article" and implies that a red link would then be inappropriate. It has been pointed up by Dmitrij D. Czarkoff, that this is the case here. NAC. The Whispering Wind (talk) 03:26, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Political career of Julius Caesar → Julius Caesar (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
- Literary works of Julius Caesar → Julius Caesar (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
WP:REDLINK TheChampionMan1234 02:33, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep: useful serch terms for Julius Caesar §§ Dictatorship and assassination and Literary works respectively. Creation of such pages should follow Wikipedia:Splitting § How to properly split an article, which does not depend on red links. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 12:01, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per Dmitrij D. Czarkoff --Lenticel (talk) 01:43, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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Statistiques[edit]
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- Statistiques → Statistics (links to redirect • history • stats) [ Closure: keep/delete ]
Not especially French TheChampionMan1234 01:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete WP:NOT a translation dictionary, statistics is not a French subject -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 06:24, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:FORRED. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 12:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
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