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May 17

My own photo has been "speedily removed" from my wiki page

How do I post my own photo to my own wiki page? How do I "Verify" my own photo taken by a family member? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Count Erich Manfred von Siebenburg (talk • contribs) 00:00, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Whoever holds the copyright to the image (which, in this case, is most likely that family member) needs to go through the procedure at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. This is a requirement; we do not allow fair-use images of living people. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 04:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Count Erich Manfred von Siebenburg, here's the easiest way: Assuming the image hasn't been published before (social media, imdb, whatever), have the photographer upload it with the process that starts here. That is a link to Commons, a sister-site to WP where we keep free images. If this is about Stephen M. Ryder, that article is likely to be deleted per WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. You need to cite references, and good ones. WP is very strict about copyright, so copypasting text from other websites is not allowed. See also WP:COI. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:33, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Public defamation

Hello,

Recently we have had a lot of silly edits to our companies description. Most likely school students who think it's funny to change the description of our school and edit the name of our Principal. We have updated this a few times and they keep changing it.

I am wondering if there is any way we can stop this from happening...?

Best regards John Unwin Business Manager

You need to register an account, disclose your relationship, and edit only through that disclosed account. And that's before factoring in that you haven't said what the article is. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 04:12, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

This must be about Heritage College Sydney. It may warrant semi-protection, regardless of the status of the OP. Maproom (talk) 07:04, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Citation #5 at Dan Torten Fixing style/layout errors

 Courtesy link: Dan Torten

I found a working link at the wayback machine but when I change it, references 1 and 2 magically break:

Cite warning: <ref> tag with name <URL_HERE> cannot be previewed because it is defined outside the current section or not defined in this article at all.

DarklitShadow (talk) 05:36, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@DarklitShadow: Nothing to worry about. It basically means that ref number 2 is not defined in the section you are currently editing, meaning the software doesn't know what it should display there. See named references for more information about reusing refs in different sections. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:20, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@DarklitShadow: I fixed the reference by editing the whole article which avoids the error message explained above. TSventon (talk) 07:24, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

William Bentvena

In the section on William Bentvena's murder, the article states "At the time of his murder in 1970, Bentvena was 49 years old and was a respected and feared made man in Gotti's crew and in the Gambino crime family.[2]" From what I understand, John Gotti wasn't inducted into the Gambino Crime Family until 1977--7 years after William Bentvena was killed. John Gotti was not an official member of the Gambino Family in 1970 and so he would not have been in charge of a crew and William Bentvena would not be working under Gotti. Gotti would have been a mere associate of the family when Bentvena was alive and Bentvena would have outranked him.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Odyswood (talk • contribs) 17 May 2021 05:36 (UTC)

The best place to discuss this is Talk:William Bentvena, where you're more likely to find editors who understand the issues. Maproom (talk) 07:12, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

The way it is phrased in the article ("a respected and feared made man in Gotti's crew and in the Gambino crime family"), as well as from the snippet I could read from the book that referenced it, it implies that Gotti's crew weren't part of the Gambino organization. I'm no expert on this. Is there any reason for Gotti not to have his own independent little gang at this time? Clarityfiend (talk) 10:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Auto-correction tool

I am trying to make a simple tool that will help to automatically replace a user’s wrong using characters with the correct one in Mon Wiktionary in MediaWiki:Common.css. It doesn’t work. Anyone can help me for that? --Htawmonzel (talk) 09:23, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Htawmonzel: You cannot place rich html using CSS, you need to use JavaScript (so wikt:mnw:MediaWiki:Common.js) for that. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank @Victor Schmidt: I can't make it works. It might be incorrect script. If you know please help. --Htawmonzel (talk) 11:36, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Posting

There is something that I want to post that doesn't fit in any of the categories. Where do I post it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.128.236 (talk • contribs) 13:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, what do you mean by "post"? Can you provide some more details about what you are trying to do, so that we can help you do it? --Jayron32 13:54, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I mean what I am doing right now. (Just wanted to say that I come from the LifeWiki ( userpage). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.128.236 (talk) 14:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia. We are not associated with LifeWiki. There are thousands of wikis. They just use the same software as us. If you want to post about Wikipedia then please say what the post is about so we can say where it belongs. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:27, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

It is that why does Wikipedia show the IP addresses of people who haven't registered after they edit something?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.82.128.236 (talk • contribs)

Because it is a unique identifier. There has been much back and forth discussion over the years about whether we should even allow unregistered users. There is a project in the works to try to anonymize IP users, though we're unsure when it will be finished. If you do not wish your IP to be public, you should register an account. AdmiralEek ^{Thar she edits!} 15:12, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

sister sledge

I Kathy Sledge am The United States trademark owner of the mark "Sister Sledge" as a Member manager of "Sister Sledge" LLC I also control the international trademark. Presently Wikipedia contains information that is false and "Self serving" to an editor. Grossly claiming false information concerning membership which We have corrected on more that one occasion only to be re-editing with un verified information. We are informing you of this in order to have its current unauthorized editor banned from making further false claims. I (we) can support this information by providing official trademark ownership certificates as well as corporate by laws.

Please advise

Kathy Sledge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sledge scamlikely (talk • contribs) 16:08, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Sledge scamlikely: What exactly is your concern with the page? What sentences do you take issue with? AdmiralEek ^{Thar she edits!} 16:16, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Sledge scamlikely, the proper place to discuss your concerns is Talk:Sister Sledge. Please familiarize yourself with the guidelines about editing with a WP:COI and also read WP:OWNERSHIP. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:41, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I see there's been some to-ing and fro-ing in Sister Sledge about who is, or has been, a member of the group. But none of the disputants have provided references to reliable published sources. Wikipedia prefers to settle such disputes by use of evidence, rather than by legal action. Maproom (talk) 06:58, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Which template would I use to cite a city report?

I'm trying to cite a city council report PDF in this draft. I don't think I did right because it leads to a 404 webpage instead of the PDF I read. Does anyone know how to fix this? Clovermoss (talk) 17:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Clovermoss: I think I fixed it; though please check, to make sure it goes to the page you intended to reference. Eagleash (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Eagleash: I just checked and it's fixed. Thank you for figuring out what went wrong. Clovermoss (talk) 18:10, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Connect edits to existing pages

Hi. I won't keep you for too long, but the thing is that I've been looking up old tv shows and series for kids and young adults. I've personally had shows which names I couldn't remember prying on my mind. And sadly, the pages Wikipedia had to offer were rather short, so I decided to do something about that. I'm clearly not the only one trying to find old shows and series nowadays.

So I'm pretty much ready to start editing the list, but there's one problem. See, I'm actually Swedish, and a lot of shows were imported, so while I couldn't find too many pages in Swedish I found a lot in English and a few other languages. So now I'm just wondering how to connect my edits (which will be in Swedish) to their respective, English, pages. And you know here on Wikipedia, if something is marked blue, it's clickable. If it's marked red, it's still clickable, but it doesn't lead you anywhere. And I would of course want my edits to be blue marked. I hope this can be done, somehow.

Any serious help will be greatly appreciated, so thanks in advance!

Note: this question has already been answered at the WP:Teahouse. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Patton a word

Can I put a new word on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.250.210.1 (talk) 18:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

In the general run of things, no. See WP:NEO. Eagleash (talk) 18:55, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

submission approval

hi wikipedia team,

happy monday, i wanted to check in to see if progress has been made in my wikipedia submission from February. let me know if i can do anything to expedite approval. thank you!

This regards Draft:Alix Peabody. In short: its not suitable for inclusion as it is basically an advertisement. It is not written in the neutral and encyclopedic tone of an encyclopedia. It is written more like a puff piece meant to make the subject seem more important. Our articles stick to the facts, not emotions. AdmiralEek ^{Thar she edits!} 19:08, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I have declined the submission and left a few notes. LittlePuppers (talk) 13:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Mildred Mottahedeh

Mildred Mottahedeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I have tried to edit my late aunt’s biography several times to change incorrect information. Someone continues to revert it back and tell me that I am misinformed and have no proof of my allegations. Well,the proof is in the bibliography. My aunt, a major reproducer of Chinese porcelain was sometimes a reproduction of herself!

How can Wikipedia be trusted, if someone with incorrect information is allowed to continually edit?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AuntRuthWurtzel (talk • contribs) 20:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@AuntRuthWurtzel: Your changes were reverted as no Independent, reliable sources were provided. Wikipedia reports on what has been written in the sources; personal knowledge is original research and cannot be verified. This has been explained at your talk page. Please review all the information provided there. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 21:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

biography

hello please help me edit a Biography that has libelous poorly sourced information .— Preceding unsigned comment added by StateStreet6 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 17 May 2021 21:05 (UTC)

• Note: Likely relates to Robert Teitel. Eagleash (talk) 21:13, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

StateStreet6 (ec) I assume this is related to Robert Teitel. If there is libelous content about you on Wikipedia, please follow the instructions at WP:LIBEL. 331dot (talk) 21:14, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I removed the content as it was (as is the rest of the article) unsourced. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:15, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Non-Census sources in the US Census population infobox

(Very good discussion moved to User talk:Prussian Fool to preserve it.) -Arch dude (talk) 14:50, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Arcane template question about sfn's within notetag text

Hi, in articles with large numbers of citations, I use sfn's and template notetag to remove the inline <ref> clutter in the interests of making it less confusing for new contributors to make additions. However in the case of notetagged material, if it has an sfn within it, I cannot place the note at the end of the article and refer to it by name, or I will get redtext warnings that the sfn referents were not resolved. An example may make this more clear. For example, in the Trumpism article, notetag Jones2012 works just fine because it has no sfns. But notetag|name=Goldberg1 text does not if it is moved to the notes section as with the Jones note. If you try this and preview the result, you will see the error red text I am talking about. I have tried Ref=sfnref to address what I anticipate is a template processing order of dereferencing issue, but to no avail. Putting <ref>'s in the notetag works, but this solution junks up the footnote section with voluminous material that belongs in the bibliography section. Any suggestions? I can live with the inline notetag clutter as you see in the example article but I suspect others may have found a solution to this annoying situation. If there is no immediate answer, please ping me even if your suggested solution occurs to you years from now. J JMesserly (talk) 22:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@J JMesserly: I can't think of a solution right now, but you'll get better answers if you ask this where the sfn nerds hang out: Template talk:Sfn. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 02:03, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

J JMesserly, this seems to be the same issue that prevents references from citing references. The workaround is using {{#tag:ref}} as described at Help:Reftags#Defining a reftag function and mw:Help:Cite#Substitution and embedded parser functions. The examples given there are simple; I don't know how complicated it would be to do what you need. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:07, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

@J JMesserly: I think you've run into a long-standing bug in the software, phab:T22707. Although you can use <ref>...</ref> tags and {{sfn}} footnotes inside {{notetag}} notes, it all falls apart if you try to define the notetag footnotes inside the {{notefoot}}. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:22, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Publishing my biography

Hello, i am a signer and i would like to publish my article, can you help me with that?

here is the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Eliasgaouro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eliasgaouro (talk • contribs) }

@Eliasgaouro: I am really rather enjoying listening to your music as I write this, and I have held back from immediately deleting your userpage for a moment, despite it being totally in contravention of our policies. See WP:USERPAGE to appreciate that a userpage is purely there for you to tell people about your interests in editing Wikipedia, and should not resemble a Wikipedia article. Based on the sources given, you do not come across as a Notable Person. I am confident another administrator will soon drop by and delete that page, per WP:PROMOTION and WP:NOTWEBHOST. Sorry about that, but this is an encyclopaedia of notable things, not a place for everyone on the planet to promote themselves. (Still loving your music, though!) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:53, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

PS: What has being a signer got to do with anything? Nick Moyes (talk) 22:56, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I believe that should be singer not signer. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:30, 18 May 2021 (UTC)