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January 11

New at NPP and stumped

I've been doing a little patrolling of new pages, and I've run across a situation that has me baffled. I found that the "article" is actually transcluded on the page 13th Parliament of Singapore, so that at first glance it looks like a subpage. Except it's in article space, and subpages are disabled. I was going to say something to the article's creator, Danialrosli, but I have no idea what to say. I doubt that this page should exist as it is, but what should be done with it? — Gorthian (talk) 03:42, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Move it to template namespace. Mlpearc (open channel) 04:00, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

@Gorthian: Couple of things you can do. If that page is used on more than one page (check by clicking the "What links here" button on the left) you could move it to template space and use it that way. In this instance it is only used once so a template is a little unnecessary. So what I would do is transfer the information from the subpage to the main page (leaving an edit summary stating exactly what you are doing) and then either mark the page A10 or or G6 with an additional explanation that you have moved the information from the subpage to the main page. --Majora (talk) 04:03, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! It's done. I moved the content and marked it with a G6, and notified the article creator. I hope I left enough info in edit summaries etc. that the deleting admin will be able to figure it all out. Again, thank you!— Gorthian (talk) 04:58, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Fixing page titles

If there is an obvious error in the page title, how is this edited.

Example: The page for "Altoona Mountain City" is incorrect. The page should be titled, "Altoona Mountain Citys." Its usage is correct within the body of the article, but not in the page title.

This is the name of a short-lived major league baseball team (1884) in Altoona, Pennsylvania. Altoona Mountain City is a colloquial reference to the City of Altoona. The Altoona Mountain Citys was the baseball team.

I was not able to find a way to edit the title.

Thank you.

posted at 03:44, 11 January 2016 by User:TimeVoyager1

It is indeed mysterious; but once you know how, it's (usually) easy.

You don't edit the title, or "rename" or "retitle" an article; instead, you "move" it from one title to another. It's a little tricky to "move" an article back to a previous title, and of course there are measures intended to prevent whimsical and worse retitlings, but in general this is a simple task. -- Hoary (talk) 03:54, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

 Done The page was moved. See WP:MOVE. General Ization ^Talk 03:55, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

In this case it was basically an uncontroverial move. However if you were to ever to encounter an article title where you could reasonably expect someone to object, or that it might be controversial, it is best to bring it up for discussion - see Requested Moves. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:30, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Add information

My page is VERY skimpy. Can I send a cv to your editors for them to expand the page? I'm Vidya Dehejia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.208.28.235 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 11 January 2016‎ (UTC)

Hey there. You can always request that edits be made by going to the talk page of an article, (in this case, Talk:Vidya Dehejia) and following the instructions at Template:Request edit. --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 05:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

I see that "skimpy" is perhaps a generous description of the page as it stands. And thank you for not updating the article yourself - despite the best intentions, it is extremely difficult to maintain a neutral, balanced article when it becomes an autobiography. By all means follow the suggestion from Allthefoxes to ask an editor to improve it, but they might need a little more than your CV. This is because Wikipedia articles are built on what reliable, independent sources say about the subject. So while your CV will have good information, the editor will also need independent sources to cite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gronk Oz (talk • contribs) 06:09, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

yolasite

Someone has inserted "yolasite" immediately ahead of ".com" in some addresses in multiple accounts. Thus links to an advertisement of some sort.

Don't need a reply. Apologies for reporting here - I know "Help" is not correct, but finding the right place .... well, I spent a long time trying but gave up.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.136.242.131 (talk 07:11, 11 January 2016‎ (UTC)

In which articles do you see a problem? I've looked at a few from this list and the domain names seem to be legitimate. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:45, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Spot-checking a few links, there seem to be a few promotional links, and several less-than-reliable websites - but I don't see large-scale spamming. If you believe that a domain is being spammed, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam is a good place to report such concerns. Please make sure to add as much specific information as possible in your report. GermanJoe (talk) 21:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Page Editing for my client

Hello team, this is Maya Samaan, I'm based in Dubai, UAE and I work in PR.

I have been trying to edit my client's wiki page (in Arabic & English - and according to his request) but I have been facing the following problems. Please note I am not the original creator of the pages, but the previous PR agency is (and they refuse to assist us and do the changes).

The name of the page is Rami Al Ali and رامي العلي in Arabic.

For the English page, I'm unable of editing the title of the page and details below the image.

For the Arabic page, I have done the changes but it doesn't show when I view it from another computer and it says that changes are awaiting approval. I'm also unable to change the details below the image.

Please advise if there is a way to fix the above problems as it is urgent!

Thank you in advance.

Maya Samaan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maya samaan (talk • contribs) 12:35, 11 January 2016‎ (UTC)

Perhaps we need to point out that your client, Rami al-Ali, does not own any Wikipedia page. There is a Wikipedia page about your client (created by a blocked advertising agency who recreated their account as Azizacomms), but it has multiple issues, not least of which is that it seems to be written with the purpose of promoting your client. Please do not try to add promotional material. Also, you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest that you should declare on your talk page. If there are factual errors, please point these out on the talk page of the article, or mention them here. If you wish to improve the article, please try to find some good references where your client has been written about in reliable independent publications (not promotional material).

It is not possible to remove the hyphen from the page name. You will need to move the page to the new title. See Wikipedia:Moving a page. We can do this for you if you wish. Dbfirs 12:50, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Much of what you added has already been published elsewhere (probably because it has come from your press releases), so it would be a WP:copyright violation to include it in Wikipedia. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:35, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Profile Image

Good Afternoon,

I am the Marketing Manager for St Dunstan's College and I have recently reviewed our Wikipedia page. I have been able to amend the details but have not been able to amend the profile image. We have refurbished the front of our school building and I was hoping to update the Wikipedia page to the latest version.

May I please be assisted on how this is may be possible?

Many thanks,

Kristine — Preceding unsigned comment added by SStammers (talk • contribs) 15:51, 11 January 2016‎ (UTC)

Good afternoon, Kristine.

Technically, you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest that you should note on your talk page, but this is not a problem for making factual changes to the article about your college (technically not your page, but that's a very minor point). Before you change the image, you need to read Wikipedia:Uploading images, but ask again here if you need more help. Dbfirs 16:33, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

We do not have "profiles" on Wikipedia, but encyclopedia articles. Dbfirs would probably say this is a minor point, so I won't disagree, but there are differences to keep in mind.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:24, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, you're right, I should have picked up on the words "profile image", because that's not what Wikipedia does, but I took it to mean the outdated picture of the school. I wasn't too critical because SStammers was only trying to make factual changes. Dbfirs 21:54, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Editorial Problems: Draft:Feargus Hetherington

Resolved

 – Balquhidder2013 (talk) 20:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Could I be put in touch with a new editor please. Mine has just told me 'You're on your own'. I've spent weeks working on a short article and when i'd completed all the references I was informed I hadn't done them properly. The editor tried to explain and got really hot under the collar when I changed his corrections (I was simply trying to do what he said but code and symbols etc are new to me and I wasn't sure what was 'instruction' and what was necessary code. Anyway, today I found the following on your pages and began to implement references accordingly when I received my dismissal message (I had just completed six of the references). I need to know that I am now on the right path. The following is the instruction I copied from a wiki page on citations:

'If the citation you are placing between the ref tags as your source is a link to an external website, place the website address (URL) within single square brackets along with some text, which the reader will see as a link. For example: '

And this is what I've been trying to do.

References

Please help Balquhidder2013 (talk) 16:26, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Discuss on the article talk page, Talk: Feargus Hetherington. I see no evidence of another editor getting "hot under the collar", so you should be able to discuss on the talk page. If that fails, read the dispute resolution policy. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:42, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

It's still a draft, so your link is incorrect. It should be Draft talk:Feargus Hetherington.--ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

My error. In any case, discuss on the talk page rather than reverting the correction of references. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:57, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, the first thing you could usefully do is to revert your last 4 edits where you took correctly formatted edits and reformatted them for no apparent reason, despite having been advised by User:Theroadislong in his preceding edit. When people try to help you, it's not clear why you reject their help. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:04, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Tom Sandow

Hi

I have posted a detail about myself on Wikipedia under my trade title 'Tom Sandow' this was listed by Google for some time but now it is not. Could you explain what the probem might be please? Have I broken some rule

Tom. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom Sandow (talk • contribs) 19:18, January 11, 2016 (UTC)

@Tom Sandow: Search engine indexing for the userspace was turned off recently since the userspace should not contain articles and therefore should not be searchable by Google. Looking at your userpage, it is not an encyclopedia article anyways. All articles must prove that they meet our criteria for inclusion. This generally means that they have been discussed in independent reliable sources. For more information see WP:42. If you want to have an article about yourself please first read WP:Your first article and then use the wizard to create a draft. Once completed another editor can check the draft to make sure it meets our criteria. --Majora (talk) 19:32, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

You are very welcome here as an editor if your purpose is to improve the encyclopaedia, but you are in the wrong place if your only reason is self-promotion. Wikipedia doesn't do that, so it was accidental that your user page appeared in Google. There are strict rules about Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, and you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if you write your own autobiography. Dbfirs 20:56, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Visual Editor

Resolved

 – Adam ^{talk - contribs} 21:47, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

How do I disable the Visual Editor? I really don't like it - I've been coding and using HTML for years and editing the source just feels more natural to me. I always click "edit source" but for some reason it doesn't always display and I have to open visual editor first, then go in to edit source. Adam ^{talk - contribs} 19:43, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

@Adi sco 93: Preferences -> Editing -> Temporarily disable the visual editor while it is in beta. --Majora (talk) 19:54, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I was looking under Gadgets and Beta, didn't think to look under Editing. Adam ^{talk - contribs} 21:47, 12 January 2016 (UTC)