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June 9

Model release required?

I read the page at WP:Uploading images, which discusses determing copyright/licencing needed to upload an image. If the picture is of a person, is a Model release also required? The image upload page doesn't mention it. I know legal advice is not allowed, but it seems that this falls under the same umbrella as licencing/copyright, so hopefully someone can answer the question. RudolfRed (talk) 03:14, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

It would probably be best to ask the copyright specialists at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions; someone there should be able to give you an answer and point you at the policy to support it. Karenjc 17:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I can't search my new article

Hello,

I recently made an article days ago and clicked save changes. For the past days, I tried to type the heading of the article in the search box, but it doesn't appear. Did i miss a process here? Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.177.158.157 (talk) 03:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Without knowing the title of the article, this is your only recent edit at this IP address. If you saved it from another address, its talk page would have received the deletion notice, and you'd have a red link where the article title was. Even if correctly saved, it might take days for the search filter to catch it, although you could still go directly there. Dru of Id (talk) 04:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

It could also have been saved in a namespace not searched by default. We really need the page name, or a user name or IP address to find it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Policy about vandalism

I am worried about the user Dilek2 who is distorting and threading misinformation into articles concerning Ottoman history. Tags have existed for many months asking for references etc, which, however, are never provided. See the Prens Sabahattin entry, for instance, claiming that there are diaries lost in World War II that only exist in "photocopies" pointing to Prens Sabahattin's bisexuality. Can I just remove misinformation -- or could perhaps somebody more experienced review Dilek2's articles Proche-O (talk) 04:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

If a tag requesting references has existed for months then you can probably assume that no reference is soon to emerge. Best practices suggest that you should perform at least a perfunctory check on the internet (google, yahoo, bing, etc.) to see if there are any reliable sources that can be used to back up this information, but if not then you can remove the information yourself. If sources do exist and they have at least the color of reliability then the material must be discussed prior to removal. If you are concerned that an editor is inserting subtle vandalism into articles then he should be warned and if the problem persists, you can report the problem to WP:AIV. -Thibbs (talk) 18:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Actress in the movie Prometheous

The main actress in the movie is actually from Iceland. She was born and raised there. Your info say Sweeden. I just saw her on a talk show and she told the host. The movie was filmed there. Noomi Rapace is her name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.2.126.10 (talk) 04:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

All the online sources I can find all say she was born in Sweden and then moved to Iceland at a young age, which agrees with the article Noomi Rapace. RudolfRed (talk) 05:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

First time creator...thank you

I just wanted to "thank" those who helped make some corrections on typos, and unnecessary sentences. The page "Cathy Segal-Garcia" is my first try at submitting anything to Wikipedia. Is there a way to send a Thank You note? signed Redlippedlady Redlippedlady (talk) 06:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Have you seen the heart icon that appears at the top of someone's talk page? That is for Wikilove and is the best way to leave a thank you note. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Alternately you could leave a {{Wikithanks}}. :-) benzband (talk) 12:07, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Creating an article

I hope ive got to the right place - i can't make head or tail of how to navigate this wikipedia - it's very old fashioned - it took me ages just to find out how to get to the spot so I can ask a question! How do I create and article - it keeps sending me in circles! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenjackman2010 (talk • contribs) 12:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I added a header to your question to separate it from the one above. You've asked another one immediately below, and I have replied there. Karenjc 13:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

hello?

HI there I just asked a question and it didnt show up argh! Please help - why is it so complicated to create an article??“” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenjackman2010 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Karenjackman2010. Wikipedia has various criteria to which articles are expected to conform, including verifiability, notability and neutrality, to name but a few. The mechanical process of creating an article is actually pretty straightforward - Wikipedia:Your first article is a good place to find out more - but creating an article that satisfies these criteria to the extent that it will not be tagged for deletion; well, that's more difficult, particularly for a new user. Hundreds of new articles are deleted every day because they fail the criteria, or even violate policy to the extent that they cannot be salvaged. This is a shame, because many were created in good faith and represent a lot of work on the part of the creator, who may then get disillusioned and walk away from the project, which could certainly put his/her efforts to good use. The best way to start learning your way around editing Wikipedia is by improving existing articles. If you do start drafting a new article, the best format is a draft in your userspace, and I see that this is what you have done at User:Karenjackman2010/KindyNews. You seem to be on the right track there, although the draft is a long way from being ready to move into articlespace, but what jumps out at me is that the publisher on KindyNews is one Karen Jackman - is this you? If so, I'm afraid you have a very large conflict of interest and you're not the right person, in Wikipedia terms, to be writing an article on this subject. If KindyNews is notable, then a neutral someone, somewhere, will eventually write an article about it. Alternatively, you can pull together all your information and references and then ask at Wikipedia:Articles for creation for someone else to create the article, although there is usually quite a long wait there, unfortunately.

Do feel free to ask here for more advice - there is plenty of guidance for new users available on Wikipedia. Best wishes. Karenjc 13:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Page sources

(1) You can never use 'too many' reliable sources :) and (2) I could not find the article in question as the only article you have edited is still standing, but try putting it through articles for creation. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 15:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The article is at Omar al-Muqdad. It contained a massive list of all the articles the subject has written and related lists, each with a source provided. I have stubbed it, removing all this material, which has caused some consternation (see the post at my talk page here).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

"Reliable sources" here should mean "reliable sources that confirm the statements made in the article". The huge mass of material deleted by Fuhghettaboutit was not relevant for this. Maproom (talk) 09:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

New admission

detail process of new admission — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.168.140 (talk) 14:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, 117.198.168.140. I have added a header to your question to distinguish it from the others on the page. If you are asking about how to create a new article, please have a look at Wikipedia:Your first article, and see my answer on the same topic two questions above this. Karenjc 14:42, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

restore

is it possible for you to restore a page please i want to restore the page i deleted called foreign relations of the united states — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hollister121 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Already  Done by LuK3 (talk · contribs). -- John of Reading (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Exact search

Hi, Is there an advanced directive that will return only exact results in Wikipedia search? I am trying to get all pages that include a publisher such as Publish America or American Biographical Institute. And this search also returns "published American", because the search engine tries to be too helpful.

I am actually using API:Search to get the number of times a publisher is used, but it seems to work the same way and gives inflated counts. Anyway, clarification will be appreciated. History2007 (talk) 16:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The search engine works with boolean operators so you can restrict the search from finding false positives with something like this. A Google search is easier and more exacting I think: <site:en.wikipedia.org "Publish America"> You can also restrict this to the mainspace though I won't go into that here because it doesn't look like you wanted that.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I will probably try the Google route. The Boolean route does not work in Wikisearch because I do not do the searches by hand, I have a program that generates them, and it can not know which terms to exclude. The results from API:search are easier to parse, that was why I wanted that. But I guess I will have to parse the Google results. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

By the way, I assume there is no way in Wikisearch to search for PublishAmerica only when WikiProject=Physics. Is there? Or where Category=Physics? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:17, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The only way I know that this can be done is where the category has a sufficiently distinct name. For example, Category:Foundational quantum physics‎ can be searched by putting quotes around it (without "category:") together with a term you're looking for, say "laser": [1].--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:02, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Anyway, I have now almost figured it out through the program. I am doing this to generate a report of self-publisher usage in pages and the results are somewhat scary... they are all over the place. E.g. Weinberg College of Arts and Sciences states that one of its notable alumni is Louise Evans (‘49) - named 2001 International Scientist of the Year by the American Biographical Institute's 1000 World Leaders of Scientific Influence, while the page on American Biographical Institute states that its awards are "frequently denounced as scams". That is how degradation happens. I will leave you a link to the report when it is done, just FYI. History2007 (talk) 10:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Help getting my band onto Wikipedia (Search results)

I want to get my band onto Wikipedia so that when you google our name it will pop up in search results linked to wikipedia - how do I do this? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireflyband (talk • contribs) 18:55, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

If your band is notable then you can ask that an article be created at WP:REQ. You could also create the article yourself, but that's not recommended since you have a conflict-of-interest. RudolfRed (talk) 21:32, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The purpose of Wikipedia is to have articles covering things that reliable places have already talked about. Posting anything - a band, a company, a film, a charity - for the purpose of telling the world about it is promotion, and explicitly forbidden on Wikipedia. That is the reason for the criterion of notability that Rudolf refers to. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

How do I use an image within the text, as a "character"?

I really should know this, but I don't know how to set an image inline with the text. What wiki markup and image size should I use?T3h 1337 b0y 19:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Assuming that you mean something like this clock—C—you would use the same markup and usually a 20px sizing. 71.146.10.213 (talk) 04:18, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Publishing an article that is meant to be viewed from a link within a major article

Hello,

I have written an article on a minor battle of WWII and intend that article to be accessed from a link in a major article about the campaign of which the minor battle formed a part. How do I achieve this end? When I submit my article, will reviewers assume it is supposed to be a stand-alone piece? It could stand on its own, but it really is meant to shed light on a minor engagement of note in the opening days of the Battle of the Bulge. Is there some way I can post for review and let reviewers know my aim? I don't feel I can go forward with my submission until I have more information to go on. Many thanks...

Steve Wheeler July5ly (talk) 20:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

All articles are expected to stand on their own, and meet the relevant requirements of notability, referencing etc. The only other option is to make it a section in an existing article. --ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

You can add {{Campaignbox Battle of the Bulge}} to show the context but as Colinfine says, the article should stand on its own. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:20, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

In the article on the larger battle, if there is a section that discusses the minor battle in summary, that the article you submit sheds more light on, you can add to that section {{Main|Name of discrete article}}. This will produce a note in the form:

Main article: Link to other article

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:34, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

removing flags from edited page

If I correct the issues for which a Wikipedia page has been flagged, is there a process I go through to have the flags removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmasiulewicz (talk • contribs) 20:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

No. If you believe that the issue has been corrected, you may remove the tag. (Of course, other editors might not agree with you). --ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Movie quotes

I've visited the page before, but it escapes me at this time. What is the guideline that discourages adding movie quotes to articles? Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 21:05, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Not sure of one specifically for movies, but you can look through WP:MOSQUOTE, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film, Wikipedia:Quotations (an essay), and WP:COPYOTHERS. If you are referring to having a section in a film article devoted to bulleted quotes from the film, like IMDb and Wikiquote has, I think what keeps those out is a need for reliable sources providing enough prose for the Wikipedia article on a given (non-iconic) quote. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Finding a (hopefully) published Wiki Page "the National Capitol Radio & Television Museum"

Hi

I created a Wiki page earlier this week. Over four days have passed and I believe the page and account have all been approved. I can not find the page I created though, called "The National Capitol Radio & Television Museum". I am wondering if I mis-categorized the page or did not properly publish the page.

Thanks for any insights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiomuseumbowie (talk • contribs) 21:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

You have entered the text in your user page: I have moved it to a subpage of your user page, so you can find your text at User:Radiomuseumbowie/National Capitol Radio & Television Museum. When the article is ready for release you will need to move itto National Capitol Radio & Television Museum (which currently appears as a red link, because the page does not yet exist. (Note: do not move it to [[Wikipedia:National Capitol Radio & Television Museum]] - this is a common error).

However, do not attempt to move it yet: it is nowhere near ready. The major problem is that there are as far as I can see no references at all to independent reliable sources. Without these, the article does not establish that the museum is notable, and it is likely to get deleted. Less serious, but a major impediment to anybody trying to read it, is that you have attempted to format the article using a completely different system from Wiki-markup. You need to change it to use the proper markup.

Incidentally, there is no concept of "approval", unless you specifically ask for review. Anybody may edit (almost) anything on Wikipedia. I suggest you read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 22:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

template section

Hi - I want to add a POV template to a section - not the whole article - please help - regards - Youreallycan 21:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Use {{POV-section}} RudolfRed (talk) 22:35, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Error on Bernie Sanders Page

I noticed an error on your Bernie Sanders page on the right hand side of the page (as I am looking at it). Under his picture you state he is a United States Senator. Further down in the "summary" you show him as a member of the US House of Representative. He can't be both. He is, in fact, a United States Senator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.229.231 (talk) 21:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The infobox at Bernie Sanders is referring to the person he replaced, Jim Jeffords, who is now in the House. RudolfRed (talk) 22:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Vermont's At-large district
In office January 3, 1991 – January 3, 2007

I'm not sure which part you refer to but I guess it's the one to the right. Note it says "In office" with a period ending in 2007. It does not claim he is still there. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Citing what I've added.

You are probably asked this a lot, but how do I properly cite what I add or change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chainsfan85 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

See Referencing for Beginners RudolfRed (talk) 22:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)