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August 23

Legal ramifications of using an image

Alright, I want to take this image and make a stencil out of it, and then make a couple band t-shirts, and sell them for a profit. What are the legal ramifications of this? I'm not sure I understand the creative commons' stand on profiting for freely distributable works. thanks!! - 75.71.2.93 00:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

That Rock dove image is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 License. In short: you are free to share and make derivative works of the file under the conditions that you appropriately attribute it, and that you distribute it only under a license identical to one provided. See official license for the official license. Although the help desk cannot answer the legal aspects of your question, there are many business lawyers who should be able to help you understand how your business proposal fits within the the creative commons' stand on profiting for freely distributable works. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

From the image description, the author has the web site: http://www.naturespicsonline.com/ which has an email address on it. Why not drop the person a line? You could probably sort out some kind of deal. --h2g2bob (talk) 01:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

let's paint tv was deleated a few days ago...

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Let's Paint Tv was deleated a few days ago. I am not the author but the artist himself, John Kilduff of Let's Paint TV. I have had hundreds of viewers to the page and I was surprised that someone questioned it's appeal to society. What can I do to get it back up? I am sure I could drum up my fan base if needed. Thanks John —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Letspainttv (talk • contribs) 00:31, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Let's Paint TV (cache) was deleted through proposed deletion - someone suggested it, and nobody disagreed. Wikipedia only accepts articles about things which have "received significant coverage [from] reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject" - the notability criteria. If this is the case, make a request at deletion review to undelete the page. --h2g2bob (talk) 00:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi John. Let's Paint TV was deleted because the article contained no independent reliable source material. Before you go through the effort to ask that the article be restored, please keep in mind that Wikipedia articles should be composed of reliable source material that is independent of you or Let's Paint TV. Has your TV show been covered by any newspapers (even alternative newspapers), books, etc.? If not, then it is unlikely that the article will be restored. If so, then you should list those in your deletion review request to have the article restored. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 00:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Since this Let's Paint TV was deleted through PROD, a request for reconsideration will result in its restoration. It will also probably be immediately sent to AfD, so any sources that might indicate its notability would have to be added very quickly, otherwise the delete opinions will quickly swamp the discussion. Dsmdgold 02:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If there comes a deletion debate for the article then please don't "drum up" your fan base. That would be against Wikipedia:Sockpuppets#Meatpuppets. PrimeHunter 01:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi again John. I asked Dsmdgold to restore John Kilduff. See this thread. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 01:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi John. I asked MastCell to restore Let's Paint TV. See this thread. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Removing tags from page after references included

Hello, one of my pages was tagged due to lack of references. I added references tonight, but noticed the page is still coming up as tagged. Can you tell me how to remove the tag warning? Thanks so much in advance for our help! The page is William C Rhodes. Thanks so much in advance for your help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jesscubes (talk • contribs) 00:32, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Once the article has been edited to resolve whatever problem the cleanup tag is talking about, you can just remove it yourself. Cleanup tags are placed at the very top of the article (or section, if they only apply to part of the article), and look like this: {{Unreferenced}}. I've removed the references for you, but the article has severe neutrality issues and borders on spam, so I've put up a new cleanup tag for that. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

Yes so how does one archive a discussion page? --LtWinters 01:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

It's as easy as copy-and-paste. See Help:Archiving a talk page. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Embedding Google maps in Wikipedia pages

Is it possible to embed a Google map in a Wikipedia page? This would be a great way to enhance articles about places and/or subjects relating to a specific locality.

Thanks! ThreeKings 02:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

No. Not only does the required HTML tag not work in Mediawiki, Google Maps are copyrighted and thus not compatible with Wikipedia's licensing. We do provide coordinates, which can be copied and pasted into Google Earth if people have it. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

See: mw:Extension:Google Maps which runs on the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia, but it's not installed here (see Special:Version for a list of installed extensions). --Teratornis 01:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your swift and accurate answer. How about a Google Maps "My Maps" map ... i.e. a map that I've customised? Is that any different to using a stock Google Map or is the copyright issue still there? For example, see the external link at the end of Knox Basketball Inc. Thanks! 3K ThreeKings 02:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

You created a derivative work which still would violate Google's copyright in the underlying map. The folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Maps might be able to give you direct assistance. However, if the answer is too slow in comming, try Golbez, Kmusser, Astrokey44, or MapMaster. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:41, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Your answer makes perfect sense. I don't think there's any other way around this so I'll just stick with my external link. Thanks again for the advice. 3K ThreeKings 05:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

how to make wiki

how do you make a wiki about a new topic —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.244.23.45 (talk) 01:53, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

You want to create a new article? Visit Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:Introduction. Sancho 01:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If you actually want to create a wiki (as opposed to merely starting a new page on an existing wiki), see: b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. But first, check WikiIndex to see if a wiki already exists on your topic. --Teratornis 02:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

A silly question about signatures...

Hey, I've got a question about signatures; I'm trying to customize mine own (code printed below), but am having trouble. When I paste it in the signature box under my preferences and click raw signature I get an error message that says, "Invalid raw signature; check HTML tags." What am I doing wrong? Thanks, --Rise Above the Vile 02:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC) [[User talk:Rise Above the Vile|<big><big><b><font face="rage italic" color ="lightgreen">Rise <font color ="green">Above <font color ="darkgreen">The <font color="black">Vile</font></b></big></big>]]

The problem is caused by opening up four font tags and only closing one. Try this:

[[User talk:Rise Above the Vile|<font face="rage italic" size="16pt" weight="bold"><font color="lightgreen">Rise </font><font color="green">Above </font><font color="darkgreen">The </font><font color="black">Vile</font></font>]]

Warning: There is a character limit, and that may not fit. Come back if it doesn't. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Also note that you'll get a slew of complaints if you use big text in a signature. -- Kainaw^(what?) 02:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding Link

I don't want to sound childish but there's a link I'd like to add but other users keep deleting it. its not a spam link its a fan website that i made myself. and I worked hard on it —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BlackFrostFan (talk • contribs) 02:15, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

You may be interested in reading WP:EL. Dismas|^(talk) 02:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If you made the site yourself, Conflict of interest might be good reading as well. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Is this the link? There is an official link which I added to the article. If you can get Florida Championship Wrestling to make your site the official fan site, you might be able to add the link to the article. On looking into the matter, the article states Florida Championship Wrestling started in mid-2007, but this link shows a Florida Championship Wrestling in 1999.-- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually that official site belongs to the original promotion from the National Wrestling Alliance. It has no connection with the development territory started by World Wrestling Entertainment.-- bulletproof ^3:16 03:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

A couple notes…

I have noticed that several articles about people used to, but no longer, have images at the top of the infobox. Is there a reason for this? A reply may be posted either here or on my talk page (link is in my signature). A list of such people can be found here. Also, is there a general talk page anywhere in Wikipedia? If there is, please link to it in your reply. - Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 01:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

At an educated guess, I would say that most of those now-missing images were under a claim of fair use, and were deleted because pictures of people aren't generally considered to be irreplaceable. Since anyone can take a picture of a person and release it under a free license, copyrighted images of people are usually deleted. I've got a more in-depth explanation here which I gave for my adoptee earlier today.

As for your second question, I'm not really sure, sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

They changed how they enforced template:Non-free promotional, which disqualified many promotional images. I had a two such promotional images uploaded. This one was not replaceable since the image was from the company while he was in the company (and no longer is there). This one was replaceable. I let both be deleted. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Just curious what would have happened if you had not "let both be deleted"? Astronaut 01:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

process plant

why we are iso butane as a carrier in poly ethylene process instead of n-butane. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.148.96.68 (talk) 03:33, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

could you please tell me why we are using iso-butane as a carrier in the poly ethylen process instead of n-butane. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.148.96.68 (talk) 03:36, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

Two sites that might help you are google search. Also try Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

reporting personal attack

where and how should i report personal attacks.User talk:Yousaf465 04:02, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Try here WP:WQA. -- Sethie 04:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

For abusive behaviour, we have a dispute resolution procedure. Please take such disputes to requests for comment, requests for mediation, or requests for arbitration. Any messages that egregiously violate Wikipedia's civility or personal attacks policies may be removed. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

It's too complex see the message of my talk page to which hi referring to as personal attack.User talk:Yousaf465

CHICKEN REARING

I WOULD NOTES ON CHICKEN (BROILER) REARING. -- 66.36.212.169 (talk · contribs · logs) 04:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

If you want information on having a chicken as a pet, please see the "Chickens as pets" section from the Chicken article. If you want information about rearing chickens for agricultural production, you might want to take a look at the "Chickens in agriculture" section. This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. If you have questions about knowledge in general, the reference desk is intended for those. Gracenotes^T § 04:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

A broiler is a chicken slaughtered for meat while it is still young and tender. Broilers are sometimes reared on a grass range using a method called Pastured poultry. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, the chicken's dead? *headdesks* Gracenotes^T § 05:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Images

How do you add pictures to a page? 05:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Grenade-Man

Please see Help:Images. Also please review the copyright policy and external links policy. ^Ariel♥Gold 05:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding Coordinates

How do I add coordinates to an article? I mean for the location of the article's subject, in the top right corner. Is there a tutorial? I looked, but if there is, I cannot find it. DerGolgo 05:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC) Wait, I found Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates and figured it out.DerGolgo 06:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

{{Geolinks-US-streetscale|44.9789|-93.2450}} adds info in addition to coordinates in the top right corner. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 06:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

{{Geolinks-US-streetscale}} seems to be deprecated now. We should use {{coord}}, at least according to its documentation. I have no idea who decides what the proper coordinate template is. --Teratornis 17:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

ISSUE OF PROVISIONAL CERTIFICATE

Dear Sir, That on 19th day of august I on behalf of my son Samiran Misra,a Botany student of your institution who has passed out in year 2006,applied for provisional certificate after haveing been forwarded by the Department Head and the Principal. I was told that the same will be forwarded to the Sikha Bhaban within 23rd day of August. But today i,e 23rd day of August they refused to deliver the same for the reason that my son's signature is requard. I apporched them in every possible manner but all in vain. Also I told them that I the authorisation letter of my son. Now that in absence of the provisional certificate my son canot sit for CAT inspite of the fact that he has fulfilled all other criteria. Now I here by callupon you to issue the certificate with in 10.30 hors of 24th day of August,failing which I shall be compailed to take appropriete step in the manner I think best. Swapan Kr. Misra 9832120567 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.93.198.225 (talk) 07:31, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid you are in the wrong place. We are Wikipedia - the free encyclopedia. We are not an educational institution. Raven4x4x 08:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Help regd Thumbnail

Hi all,

installed imagemagick on my wiki server for getting thumbnailing feature to work.I also made the follwowing changes to the loaclsettings.php file.But still iam getting this error "Warning: exec() [function.exec ]: Unable to fork [""C:\Program Files\ImageMagick-6.3.5-Q16\convert" -quality 80 -background white -size 180 "E:\Wiki\mediawiki-1.7.1/images/e/e4/EagletonTripPic2.JPG" -coalesce -resize "180x135!" -depth 8 "E:\Wiki\mediawiki- 1.7.1/images/thumb/e/e4/EagletonTripPic2.JPG/180px-EagletonTripPic2.JPG" 2>&1"] in E:\Wiki\mediawiki-1.7.1\includes\GlobalFunctions.php on line 1719" The modifications i did are

$wgEnableUploads = true; $wgUseImageResize = true; $wgUseImageMagick = true; $wgImageMagickConvertCommand = "/usr/bin/convert";

Kindly respond ASAP

Regards,

Priya.N —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Prinav (talk • contribs) 08:26, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Make sure you've installed ImageMagick, and then change $wgImageMagickConvertCommand to point to the convert.exe program, which is part of ImageMagic. --h2g2bob (talk) 14:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi,

I did all the modifications.But itsn not working.Any thoughts???

Regards,

Priya.N

Getting my page to work

Hi Im having problems with being able to view my page now that i have completed it. when i type in my page on the search bar it doesnt come up showing it exists. The Earlybirds (band) 08:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

That is because you've created your user name, as the the page you wanted, and thus, you've created a WP:Userpage, not an article. If you'd like Wikipedia to search user space as well as mainspace, you can change that in your preferences. If you'd like the article published into the mainspace, I'd suggest that you go post it over at Articles for creation. If you're sure it qualifies for an article, as guided by notability policy, and reliable sources, then I would suggest that you request an administrator move it from your user space, and you may need to change your username, so it isn't considered a conflict of interest if you edit it. On that note, if you are in that band, then that policy would apply, and you should consider having someone else write the article. Hope that helps! ^Ariel♥Gold 08:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

) Well, your page is working fine... the thing is you put the article up for your userpage, which not an article. Hope this helps WP:YFA Sethie 08:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

How to navigate

Hi Wikipedia is so huge , that i am unable to decide where to start from. Can you guide me how to navigate the site properly.

Does wikipedia have RSS feeds

Thanks Punit —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Punitchhabra (talk • contribs) 08:52, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

You could always use the random article link on the left, or you could just start by searching for things that interest you, or you could go to the main page, using the links from there, they lead all over Wikipedia! Cheers, ^Ariel♥Gold 08:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Use the search box on the left of the page, or go to the contents page. --h2g2bob (talk) 15:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

For RSS feeds, see: Wikipedia:Syndication. If you want to edit on Wikipedia (as opposed to just reading articles) see the Editor's index. See Help:Search and User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#sea for lots of ways to search Wikipedia. If you cannot find what you want on a specific topic, you could ask at the Reference desk. In keeping with such a huge project, Wikipedia provides many ways for you to access content. --Teratornis 22:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

User name already in use?

Hi

I am trying to login using a username which is quite unuaual (all alpha though) and is always accepted as unique. Wikipedia rejects it as 'in use' (which can happen if I have forgotten I had signed up before) but when I go to 'lost password' the system says no email address is registered, which seems to imply the username isn't registered.

Is there any other explanation for what appears to be an illogical situation please?

86.7.35.135 08:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Email address associated with an account have to be confirmed after one has registered the account for any email related functions (e.g. passphase recovery) to work. It is entirely possible for you to have registered the account and not confirmed the email address. If so, the only possibility for you would be to register a new account save you recalling the passphase. If that other account has no edit history, you may be ask for usurp. Of course, it can simply be the case that someone else has beaten you to it. KTC 12:18, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Email addresses are not necessary for an account, although once confirmed they do make certain things a lot easier (like password recovery). If you go to Special:Listusers and search for your username, does it come up? If so, click on the username, then on the page it brings up look at the box labelled "toolbox" on the left of the screen and click on "User contributions" to see if the account has any, or if it can be usurped. Confusing Manifestation 22:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Referral pages from off-wiki?

My userpage suddenly got a swath of anon vandalizations. Is there an easy way to find out the referral links to my userpage from off-wiki? THF 09:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I vaguely recall that AltaVista has a search option to find Web pages that link to a given URL, and Google Search does not. If I recall correctly. --Teratornis 22:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Google search does - in Advanced Search, under Page-Specific Search, "Find pages that link to the page". — PhilHibbs | talk 14:19, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I stand corrected, then. Thanks for the tip. --Teratornis 17:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Removing log entries of edits to user page

Woaw, long title. Anyway, is it possible to remove a couple of entries in the log of edits of my userpage? thanks. Stormtalon 09:59, 16 March 2007 (UTC) 11:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

See Oversight. THF 11:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Note: That doesn't exactly remove the entries. It simply hides them (from non-oversights). x42bn6 Talk Mess 11:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the help.Stormtalon 06:43, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Anonymous spammer doing his best to ensure spam is kept on the Prince2 page

The Prince2 article on Wikipedia relates to a popular project management technique. There are a lot of training providers that provide Prince2 training and many of them would love the Prince2 page to link to their website. For this reason spammers have added many such spammy external links to the page. There has been discussion on the talk page about removing them but there is an anonymous user who consistently argues for the retention of spam and reverts changes whenever someone tries to take the spam links away. (Most recently he did it to me yesterday.) I am trying to be as consensual as can be and I have put the page out to RFC but the only person (apart from me) responding is an anonymous user (most probably the Anonymous user) who is once again arguing for the retention of the spam links. Everyone who has had an interest in the page has pretty much given up against this guy but I am determined not to let him beat me. What do you suggest as a course of action to ensure that the spam can be removed in a democratic and consensual way? Is there any way in which anonymous users can be blocked from editing the main Prince2 page or its talk page? Please help - this is taking up far too much of my time already! Wikikob 12:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Contrary to these comments by Wikikob there are clearly a number of contributors supporting retention of those links, such as Stevo, PRINCEAndy and others. Accusing someone of spamming simply because they support retention is not acceptable. This applies whether the links stay or go.

Statements like "I am determined not to let him beat me" are of concern as they illustrate a mission other than to contribute to the quality of the page. The (short) edit history of Wikikob comprises almost entirely of deletions and no content input. This is not wrong in itself, but it is not usual for someone to engage in such a determined campaign with such a background. —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:30, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Anonymous editing can be blocked by requesting the page be protected. Note that this is a temporary solution, and will only be approved if it is determined to be repeated, constant vandalism. If that's not the case, you need to go through dispute resolution to help get a common understanding of what should be in the article. -- Kesh 14:03, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I appreciate that a short history of the article does not show many contributions from me but I was the person who completely rewrote the article about a year ago. Before that it was little more than a stub. You can see my rewrite at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=PRINCE2&diff=76550985&oldid=74365683. It is true that Stevo voted for keeping the links but PRINCE2Andy runs the Prince2 training and consultancy firm OutPerform. He had a vested interest in keeping the links because one of them was to his site. Prince2Andy is quite a reasonable guy (I've met him) and he's not re-inserted the link to his site and has withdrawn from discussion on the page. All the other comments supporting the keeping of links are anonymous and I truley believe they are the work of one person. I appreciate the need for consensus but at the end of the day spam is spam no matter how many people say it isn't! Please check out the links yourself. A good example is the one to the www.spoce.com Prince2 training site. Kesh, thanks for the suggestion re DR. I have started the process (I think - I'm not the most clued up wikipedian there is) by putting an RFC on the page. Unfortunately, as I mentioned, anonymous users are able to contribute. Wikikob 14:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

As you can see Kesh, there is no vandalism there. There are a lot of false allegations from Wikikob which is not appropriate behavior on Wikipedia.

Contrary to Wikikob's first comments, we have an about turn, as he now concedes that others support retention, after all. However, he now tries to discredit them!

His claim that all anonymous contributors are the same person I take offense to, as I stated already that my first contribution came earlier today. He is indirectly calling me a liar, which in different circumstances would be libelous. Again, this is not appropriate behavior on Wikipedia.

For the article, the majority of contributors still support inclusion of those links. Until that changes, or until consensus emerges on specific links, he should not try to impose his own opinion on everyone else by deleting unilaterally. This should be the case even though he is "determined not to let HIM beat me", whoever "him" actually is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.110.218.226 (talk) 16:22, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

Number of views for a given article

Hello, is there a way to know the number of times a given article has been viewed ? Thanks to Wikipedia:Statistics I have found some ways to:

• know the number of times an article was edited
• know the number of times per day the whole Wikipedia is viewed (thanks, Alexa)
• know the most popular articles, by number of views
• and some other interesting stuff

but I would like to know the number of views for a given article, by curiosity to have a guess about its popularity. Is it possible in some way ? SyG 15:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This question comes up occasionally on the Help desk. --Teratornis 15:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the disturbance, and thanks for the answer! SyG 17:44, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

You are welcome, and your question exhibited suitable decorum and was hardly disturbing (as anyone familiar with technical support would expect, some people find their way to the Help desk while experiencing anger at whatever problem they are having, and some of them are generous enough to share their anger with the unpaid volunteers who want to help them). As you can see from the search link I gave, lots of people have had the same question about hit counters, which suggests we have an ergonomic shortcoming here (basically, that means if lots of people have to ask the same question, the system should become better so they don't have to ask). Which causes me to think of a possible feature request here - since many smaller MediaWiki wikis leave the hit counters enabled by default (that is, they do not set the $wgDisableCounters variable in LocalSettings.php), the footer space normally allocated to the hit counter could just as well be used for a link to a page explaining why the counter isn't available, when it isn't (such as: Wikipedia:Technical FAQ#Can I add a page hit counter to a Wikipedia page?). This would be in keeping with the Grayed out principle in GUI design - when you disable a normally visible feature, it's better to leave some sort of placeholder to indicate that the feature is disabled, rather than just make it disappear altogether. --Teratornis 00:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Help repopulating categories from WP:DRV of WP:CFD

I have been trying to get the categories and subcategories repopulated here: Category talk:Films by shooting location. I need someone to tell me who to contact to find out who ran the bot.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 15:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Kbdank71. A look at an edit history found [1] and then [2]. PrimeHunter 17:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

What time is it?

I am in the United States in the Eastern Time Zone. This computer says it is 11:41 AM. Yet the last edit was made at 15:25, which is 3:25 PM.Vchimpanzee 15:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

It's Coordinated Universal Time. :) --Moonriddengirl 15:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. So I can't fix it like on another web site I go to?Vchimpanzee 15:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, you have some power over it, at least as regards you. At the top of the page under "my preferences" you'll find a tab that reads "date and time." Under "time zone," you do have the ability to offset your preferences, which will change how times read for you under "recent changes" and on "your watchlist." Comments use UTC for standardization purposes. --Moonriddengirl 16:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay. I guess I'll just have to try and remember, then.Vchimpanzee 16:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

asking questions of the Humanities

How do I send a question? Here is what I wrote earlier, but found no way to send it:

SUBJECT/HEADLINE: ECCLESIASTICAL CUSTOMS, ENGLAND

Can you describe for me the history and the mechanics of "a living" in 19th-c. England, as alluded to in novels by George Eliot, Jane Austen, and others? I surmise that a "living" is a sort of endowment established at a given church for the support and salary of the rector, and I take it to be a rural or provincial custom. But how is it established, and who administers it?

One phrase that I have repeatedly encountered is "The living was in his gift." How does it come to be in anyone's gift?

Thank you for your help.

209.247.23.5 16:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Anne Lunt, Temple, NH -- [[email redacted to prevent abuse by spammers etc..]]

By posting your question here, you have in fact already "sent" it to where you want it to go, however, this desk is for questions pertaining directly to the inner workings of wikipedia itself, your question is better suited for the reference desk, which is where I will move your question to. --69.118.235.97 11:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Uploading a logo

I've been trying unsuccessfully to upload and tag the logo for the U.S. Ski Team for applications on the U.S. Ski Team and U.S. Ski and Snowboard Association page. What would be the proper tagging for this logo? I have obtained permission from the U.S. Ski Team to use it?

Freeride911 18:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

To confirm that permission has been granted from the owner of the copyright, you need to follow the instructions here. For the time being, you may upload it with a fair use rationale using the {{Non-free logo}} tag. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Autolinking facility?

I'm under the impression that Wikipedia uses an autolinking facility of some sort -- one that generates links to existing pages if the user doesn't do it themselves. I've been looking around for several days. I've reviewed the Special:Version page. Can someone tell me if Wikipedia uses an automatic generator, what the extension name is (if there is one) and where I can get the same functionality? Thanks. --Vjg 18:41, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, there isn't an automated process for generating internal links. The magical appearance of internal links is due to an army of hardworking editors (sometimes affectionately described as wikignomes) who keep an eye on Special:Newpages. They look for articles that are missing internal links, that aren't categorized, or that don't quite line up with the manual of style in myriad small ways—and they fix things. You too are welcome to do this.

Unfortunately, creating an automated tool to add wikilinks to articles would be quite difficult. Deciding when, where, and how often to link words or terms in articles is more art than science, and a script is unlikely to do it quite right. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 18:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll go ahead and give the AutoLink extension a try and see if it holds up in our environment. I thought maybe there was a better facility in place here. I know it's a daunting task... it's just that in my implementation environment, I think it will be helpful for our users if even a basic facility is available. --Vjg 18:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

help me now

i need to get a copy of the preamble in spanish for a friend but it only shows two other languages so i need help please —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.106.243.151 (talk) 19:02, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

You can find the Spanish version of the article here. Sorry, I'll go add the language links now. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Hide Expand Feature

Is it possible to use a hide/expand feature in wikipedia eg "+" "-" in order to expand content under a header? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 156.77.108.70 (talk) 19:12, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

This effect can be achieved using {{Collapsible option}}. You can look at some of these pages to see how it works. --Cherry blossom tree 20:04, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Searching restricted to Categories is not possible

I think it should be possible to search restricted to categories. This is especially important in the "articles for creation" category. If you want to add a new article wouldn't it be nice if you can do a search about past submissions that failed? I had to use google to do it like this:

mysearchterm "articles for creation" site:wikipedia.org —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.53.95.173 (talk) 19:59, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

You can change your preferences ("My Preferences") to do this, but you have to be a logged-in user to use that facility. Once you've created a user id and logged in, go to "My preferences" -> "Search", and uncheck everything but "Category". Then when you're through searching you can reset your preferences, if you so desire. Corvus cornix 23:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This is rather complicated. There should be a simpler way to do it without requiring registration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.108.241 (talk) 19:35, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Advertisement Postings

Why does Thompson & Knight's page have a "this article or section is written like an advertisement" posting at the top of the page? Similarly listed law firms do not have this heading. Thank you. 65.70.162.129 20:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

This is someone's opinion. Try not to have a fighting attitude or a "sue me" attitude. Try to rewrite the article in a neutral, non-advertising-like fashion. Haveaquestion 20:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

It is "someone's opinion" because the article is full of peacock language, self-contragulatory phrasing, etc. that is far from neutral point of view: "is a dynamic firm"; "is one of the world’s premier energy firms"; "prides itself on the depth of its experience" etc. In short, it reads not like a neutral article but like an advertizement and the language used is very close to that appearing on its website and its Martindale-Hubble profile page, so there may be copyright issues involved (though sometimes this is a chicken and egg issue that's difficult to analyze when an article is not newly minted).--Fuhghettaboutit 23:03, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I just found my new, favorite template - template:peacock. Thanks! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 04:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Windows right click funcion for Wikipedia?

This site is so useful... Sometimes I come across a work or name I'm not familiar with and I copy it, got to my browser, go to Wikipedia and search for it…

It would be great if I could highlight the word, right click and select “Search in Wikipedia” and it would open a new window (or better a new tab) with the search results.

Is there anything like that?

Thanks, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Beachbum504 (talk • contribs) 22:11, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I actually have something like this using the google toolbar, you highlight a word and click the wikipedia link in the toolbar and it searches it for you, it's very handy! See Google Toolbar for more info! (Works in Internet Explorer and Firefox on Windows, Linux and Mac) Hope this helps. Andy^reply 22:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Also you can search Wiktionary for word definitions, and sometimes Google Search delivers with its "define:" option. Such as:

• Google:define:Wikipedia

If you are reading an article on Wikipedia and it contains jargon terms with no links on them, please add suitable links when you find other articles that define those terms, and help us Build the web. Unlike almost everything else you have to endure in the world, on Wikipedia you can actually fix whatever is wrong. --Teratornis 00:52, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

The highlight word/right click search with Google toolbar installed gives the option of searchgin the term in Google or a suggested popular search. Google toolbar --> Options --> Features -- > Search box settings -->Suggest popular searches. Does anyone know how to make Wikipedia a "popular search" for Google toolbar? -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:30, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

• OK, I figured it out. Go to toolbar. For "Most Popular Buttons" #3 Wikipedia, click "Add". Now, when you highlight a word and right click, chose "Send to" then select "Wikipedia". There is your right click Wikipedia search! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Adding an Entry -- Guaifenex

I have been looking up information about all the medications i take on Wiki today. And, i came across one thats not listed. Guaifenex, also known as: Banex,Duratex,Phenylfenesin i have a link to a Description on Drugs.com http://www.drugs.com/guaifenex.html But i was hoping for a more indepth description and History here on Wiki. i'm not sure how to suggest an Entry. and i really don't know how to Create One. Thank You for your Help, Time, and Support. --ThunderBoyThunderBoyDavid 23:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Never Mind... i think this Entry covers it.. sort of.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guaifenesin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ThunderBoyDavid (talk • contribs) 23:37, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Is there a correct order for external links?

When a new external link is added to an established article, are there any guidelines about where it should be added. A new link was added just added as the second in a list of about 10 links. I thought I read somewhere that new links should be added at the end of the list, but I can't find any information about this subject. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moon Rising (talk • contribs) 23:24, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I don't know, but a good place to look is the Editor's index, which has this entry:

• External links: see Sources, URLs

You might see what you can find in those entries, if you hadn't already checked them. Between the two entries, they list a lot of links to guideline pages etc., so if you can't find the answer there, the answer may not exist yet. (For every issue, there had to be some time before any suitable guideline existed, and then somebody must have decided to write a guideline, and other people must have collaboratively banged their way to consensus - there are undoubtedly still more issues that need guidelines, but I have no idea whether your current issue is one of them.) You could also try this search of the Help desk archive, but I didn't see anything promising on the first page of search results. You might have to look at more results or try other search keywords. The Help desk archives cover a lot of issues. --Teratornis 03:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

You might want to compare the requirements of external link to Fellowship_of_Friends#External_links to get an idea of how to arrange the entries. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 03:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Coordinators

Hello there. I have a question regarding WikiProject Coordinators. I'm curious if there is a policy allowing or disallowing WikiProjects to have Coordinators. Preferebly something besides WP:BURO. --Tλε Rαnδom Eδιτor (tαlk) 23:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I dont think theres any policy against it, but I dont like it. i ^said 23:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Check this out. It's been going on for a while. Seems to bring to mind WP:OWN. However, here is another one, so it seems somewhat popular. This one is no longer active. There are a few more listed on this page and it also list Founders(!). According to this post, the Project Guide specific mentioned project coordinators in November 2006. This link seems to be the first post on the topic. However, it was quickly dismissed. Depending on where you want to take it, you can list one of the coordinator pages at MfD or RfC to get better input. -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:10, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Removal of quote

I've been working on an article on a well-known biographer, Meryle Secrest, and used a quote about the biographer's trade -- but the webmaster removed it immediately. I don't know why -- I cited the source and it was an apt quote from her. I see other authors' pages with quotes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JaneA (talk • contribs) 23:45, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

I've made this its own section and removed duplicated posts. i ^said 23:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)