Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of colleges and universities in Delaware/archive2

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The list was not promoted by Crisco 1492 03:03, 20 May 2014 (UTC) [1]].[reply]

List of colleges and universities in Delaware[edit]

Nominator(s): Caponer (talk) 14:22, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am re-nominating (see archive1) this list because it has been written and formatted according to the precedent set by previous featured lists of American colleges and universities in the U.S. states of Michigan, Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia etc. etc. Please note that this is the second nomination of this list on account of my withdrawing it because I already had two other lists nominated for FL review. Thank you all in advance for your review, suggestions, and guidance. -- Caponer (talk) 14:22, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For the situational awareness of the FL reviewers, this article was reviewed and featured in the Did you know? column. The DYK review may be referenced here: Template:Did you know nominations/List of colleges and universities in Delaware. -- Caponer (talk) 14:29, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support A very good clean looking list, looks adequate for FL to me. Just a few things:

Last paragraph about the accrediting could do with a citation or two at the end.
Watch overlink in notes and type column to Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education, just one link in the notes should suffice.
Same with the location column, should only really link to one city once.
Might want to blue link the red links for looks.
Also watch for overlinking publishers in refs, looks just about OK though I think.

♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:20, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Blofeld, thank you again for taking the time to review this list and provide the above feedback! I've added an internal citation at the end of the final paragraph, removed overlinking from the column notes, removed excessive links to placenames, and removed overlinking of the publisher information in the citations. I'm working on turning the blue links red. Your attention to this list is greatly appreciated and I commend you for your assistance! -- Caponer (talk) 20:08, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support

"Five of Delaware's post-secondary institutions listed under the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education are private and five are public" - you just mentioned the CCIHE 2 sentences ago. You can just say "five of the post-secondary institutions are private and five are public."
I disagree with Dr. Blofield, not linking all the locations in a sortable list seems off to me, but since it's so short I suppose it's alright.
Why are the two defunct universities not mentioned in the lead?
I'd combine notes 2,3,4 into one note- "School locations, controls, and types are based on the Carnegie Classification of Institutions of Higher Education.[1]"
Expand the reflist width to 30em, 20 is super-narrow
Drop the (DIMER) from the publishing field in ref 9
I don't usually say this, but since the table is narrow, maybe put some more free images of universities running down the right side

--Pres N 22:07, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
PresN, thank you so incredibly much for taking time from your editing schedule to review this list! I've addressed all your comments and suggestions, and I feel they have significantly improved the list. In keeping with the precedent set by previous college and university FLs, I'd like to refrain from adding images on the right side. Please let me know if you have any other comments or suggestions! -- Caponer (talk) 00:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to support; last comments: I don't much care for short paragraphs, so I'd prefer if the first two in the lead were combined; I think it would also read better if it were "Delaware once had two additional private post-secondary institutions for men and women respectively:". --Pres N 03:50, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from ColonelHenry

Claiming that the University of Delaware was founded in 1743 is arguably more than a little disingenuous, since for its first 90 years it was little more than a high school and UD wasn't chartered as to grant post-secondary degrees until 1833. List of Colonial Colleges#Other colonial-era foundations describes this quickly, but this claim is unsupportably false at present and needs to be qualified. I cannot support this article as long as it puts that claim forward as an unquestioned or unqualified fact.--ColonelHenry (talk) 03:55, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
More to come...--ColonelHenry (talk) 03:56, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ColonelHenry, thank you for the suggestion. I have fixed the dates and added a footnote for further explanation. Please let me know if my edits fully address your concern. Thanks again! -- Caponer (talk) 11:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That is an exceptionally thorough fix, and I appreciate your attention to it. I promised I'd look through the article, and I will do so later today.--ColonelHenry (talk) 12:12, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I find it odd when the table I'm looking at is actually shorter than the key. I would like to see more information in the table about the various colleges and universities, particularly as the lists are so short. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:46, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man, thank you for taking time to review this list. The content listed here is standard information for lists of colleges and universities, and all other information is usually captured in the list's introductory paragraphs. It just so happens that in this case, Delaware has few colleges and universities compared to other U.S. states. Is there a specific type of information that you would like to see listed here? -- Caponer (talk) 11:10, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I believe that certain accrediting organizations (e.g., APA mentioned for the University of Delaware) can only accredit a specific graduate program or sub-program, not the institution as a whole. Alternately, MSA accredits entire colleges or universities. It may need to be explained in the text so as not to confuse the reader.--Godot13 (talk) 05:48, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delegate's comment - This nomination has been open for a little over two months, and it does not seem like a consensus will emerge soon. As such, I am archiving the nomination. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:58, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.