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The list was promoted by SchroCat 15:40, 4 June 2015 [1].

List of accolades received by The Last of Us[edit]

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Nominator(s): -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 01:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets all aspects of the FL criteria, comprehensively covering the many year-end accolades received by The Last of Us. The content is similar in nature to other accolades articles (some of which are featured lists), proving to me that this list is good to go all the way -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 01:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support as nominator. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 01:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: nomination was not transcluded to WP:FLC, now done. --PresN 18:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Seattle (talk) 19:10, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "Giraffes" scene and "Joel's loss" shouldn't sort where they do; they should sort under "G" and "J" respectively
  • Names in the "Recipient(s) and Nominee(s)" section should sort by surname and not first name; use Template:Sortname
  • Why don't you use "! scope="col"" tags for the column headers? See MOS:DTAB for more information
  • It was released on June 14, 2013 for the PlayStation 3 everywhere?
  • What makes "DualShockers" a reliable reference? Did they factcheck "Gotypicks"?
  • The list that constitutes the second paragraph seems excessive and makes the text almost unreadable. Can you cut back on this at all?
  • Why don't you discuss The Last of Us: Left Behind in the lead?
  • Ndashes needed in references in place of hypnehs; ex. ref 31 ("Good Game Stories - Award - Best Game") and ref 89 ("Digital Spy's best games of 2013: 5-1"). Check throughout for these. Seattle (talk) 07:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments, Seattle! I've gone ahead and fixed up most of your concerns, though I have couple of queries:
  • Did you mean that you'd like me to clarify that the game had a worldwide release on the same day?
  • I agree that the list in the second paragraph is quite excessive, but it's very difficult to cut down. Do you have any suggestions?
Let me know. Thanks again! -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 09:14, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hardcore Gamer. and the Spike VGX 2013 period in inappropriate place.
  • and Best Action-Adventure Game on PlayStation 3[61] and overall. can you clarify what "overall" is?
  • The game's graphical and artistic design also won awards from Destructoid... ... It also won... repetitive prose

Yes, if I understand correctly, some games are not released in unison across all regions, and I wanted you to clarify that that date was its worldwide release date, or if that date represented a specific region's release date. For "Game of the Year" awards in the lead, I would just cut the list down to four or five awards, state "among others", or something similar, at the sentence's end, and include references to another three or four awards. Seattle (talk) 16:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply, Seattle. I've gone and fixed these issues. I cut the amount of Game of the Year awards down from 23 to eight, and I believe it looks a lot more readable now. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 21:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Seattle, is the current fair use rationale not suitable? -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 20:40, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't think use of a fair-use file here meets point eight of Wikipedia's non-free content policy, which states that "non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." If readers go to the awards page for The Last of Us, I don't think a logo of the game's developer meets the "[significant] increase [in] readers' understanding of the article topic" criterion established in the policy. If the logo is removed, I'm not sure what the reader loses. Seattle (talk) 23:26, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point, and I do agree. How do you feel about adding an image of Neil Druckmann or Bruce Straley instead? They both received awards for the game. Let me know. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 03:01, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine, as long as the photo used has a personality rights template and isn't fair-use. Seattle (talk) 18:38, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
How's that, Seattle? -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 21:13, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Comprehensive and well-sourced list. HĐ (talk) 03:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Crisco comments
  • The lead should be reworked (in fact, I was ready to oppose over it). Lists written horizontally are just not engaging, especially when they all follow the same sentence structure: Subject - Synonym of win - Award title - Award-giving body. See List of accolades received by Frozen (2013 film) and List of accolades received by 12 Years a Slave (film) for better examples you can learn from... work can include pruning minor awards, collating multiple awards from the same body, etc. After all, the lead is to introduce the list, not give it in its entirety.
  • the most awarded game in history - This could be ambiguous; "received as an award" or "had awards given to". I'd rephrase — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:13, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your response, Crisco 1492. I went ahead and reworked the lead, as per your suggestions. Let me know what you think. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me | current FLC) 08:50, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the support! Your feedback was really useful, and I'll be sure to use it in the future (if I ever work on another article like this again). Also, thanks for the heads-up about my signature; I've just removed the link. -- Rhain1999 (talk to me) 10:17, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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