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National Basketball Association venues by team[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 19#National Basketball Association venues by team

Category:Universiade venues[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Delete. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:39, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OCVENUE. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:35, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That category is nominated right here. Please provide your input (pro/con/other) at the correct nomination. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:22, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Flanders Campaign 1793–94[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition. @Nederlandse Leeuw and Marcocapelle: please go ahead and create the subcats as discussed. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, "Flemish campaign" primarily refers to the British contribution in the Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition, but this category is broader on the one hand (also including the French versus Habsburg encounters) and narrower on the other hand (since the articles are only about the Austrian Netherlands). I have no objection against creating Category:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition as a parent category, in order to also include Category:French conquest of the Dutch Republic. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:15, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
copy of opposed speedy discussion
@Fayenatic london and Nederlandse Leeuw: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:22, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My point #1 (see talk page) was that Austrian Netherlands is too narrow for the scope of the subject, and that the Dutch Republic, the Prince-Bishopric of Liège and all the other smaller semi-independent polities in the south should be included as they were interlinked.
My point #3 (see talk page) that a name like French (revolutionary) conquest of the Austrian Netherlands / Dutch Republic / Low Countries may just replace the British POV with a French POV, and might suffer from hindsight bias was the reason why I rejected the "Category:French conquest of" proposals, and advanced the new title Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition that Marco then accepted. So I think the "Category:French conquest of" proposals are now obsolete. On 12 March, Marco and I went back and forth about the consequences this would have for the category tree, and I think both of us have put forward arguments which had some merits, Marco expressing concerns about it becoming a rather isolated category. I suggested that my proposed creation of the parent Category:Military history of the Low Countries could solve this, as it would be a child of Category:History of the Low Countries, thus ending the "isolation" Category:Low Countries theatre of the War of the First Coalition would face. Moreover, I have already written List of wars in the Low Countries until 1560 and List of wars in the southern Low Countries (1560–1829), and these and several other pages and cats currently in Category:History of the Low Countries could also be moved to Category:Military history of the Low Countries. Although I initially thought it was currently unnecessary, I now think it's the missing link we need to create in order to fix the category tree. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:15, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment — would the contributors please fix the indentation and signing of their contributions? I'm finding this incomprehensible. If you have 3 subcategory rename suggestions, numbering them would help, but better to not make them look like nominations.
    William Allen Simpson (talk) 07:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've tried to fix it, I hope this helps. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 23:21, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 19:02, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Still confused as to what exactly it is that we're being asked to approve. Can we get a single statement please of all the asks? Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:40, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ted Lasso[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 06:51, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Too little content, redundant to the episodes cat. Nothing seems to need to be recategorized or merged. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:07, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Bill Lawrence (TV producer) is not a Ted Lasso episode, so something would need to be recategorized or merged. What exactly is being proposed here? – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:17, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose. Ted Lasso is not an episode and does not belong in that category; List of awards and nominations received by Ted Lasso is not an episode and does not belong in that category; File:Tedlassotitlecard.jpg is not an episode and does not belong in that category. Gonnym (talk) 18:46, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    No one is proposing to move those articles to that subcategory. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:25, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    What is being proposed is deleting Category:Ted Lasso. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:25, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:OCEPON. The above comments seem to assume that this is a merge proposal, but that is not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:37, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Marcocapelle I did not assume anything. The nominator says redundant to the episodes cat. I've listed 3 pages that don't belong there, hence why this category isn't redundant. Also, please let us know how WP:OCEPON relates to this? The "Ted Lasso" in the category name isn't a person (or fictional character) but the name of the television series. Did you mean to link to something else? Gonnym (talk) 13:32, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose this seems like a perfectly valid parent cat, of which the episodes cat can be a child. I do question if Bill Lawrence needs to included in this, but the main article and the awards list are good. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Needs more than just the episodes subcat and a list. The episodes subcat can certainly survive as a standalone without the need for an eponymous parent category. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:34, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete for Now Per WP:SMALLCAT since it contains only the subcategory and 2 articles. (There is currently a miscategorized third article, Bill Lawrence (TV producer), but that's a clear WP:PERFCAT issue.) If/when this gets up to 5+ legitimate direct articles, no objection to recreating. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:26, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above. The person who loves reading (talk) 22:26, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cemeteries in Chowan County, North Carolina[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge as stated in discussion. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:41, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT User:Namiba 17:25, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The sole article is already in Category:Cemeteries in North Carolina so a dual merge is not necessary.--User:Namiba 14:28, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alcohol and health[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 20#Category:Alcohol and health

Category:Former English Football League clubs[edit]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:20, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This type of category is not used for that many other football leagues with promotion and relegation. Status of if clubs are playing or have played in the league is better conveyed in articles English Football League and List of former English Football League clubs.
See also: current discussion on Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 30#Category:Defunct English Football League clubs Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:57, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom and discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Diffusion_of_Category:English_Football_League_clubs where people say to return club articles to categories where they belong at the start of the week. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 15:03, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • You don't understand. That categories are not for defunct (disestablished) clubs. They are categorized by former league of club, and many active clubs in it. Teterev53 (talk) 23:14, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:St Fintan's High School[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:43, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Pointless single-article category, with no potential for expansion.

It now contains only the head article St. Fintan's High School, but when I found it also had several articles on past pupils, all of which were also in the subcat Category:People educated at St. Fintan's High School. I removed that duplication, per WP:SUBCAT. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:25, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Under-23 cricket teams[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 06:48, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Teams category is a WP:SMALLCAT and if deleted, the parent will be empty and redundant. the only under-23 cricket team articles we have are for Bangladesh and NZ, and as under-23 cricket is not a common age range for cricket events, unlikely more articles will be created for under-23 teams. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:21, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Youth cricket in the United States[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. ✗plicit 06:53, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. Of the 4 articles listed, MLC Jr. Championship is a redirect, and 2021 Minor League Cricket season and 2022 Minor League Cricket season are not specifically youth tournaments, so shouldn't be in this category. As such, upmerging the 1-2 valid articles in this category is sensible Joseph2302 (talk) 11:16, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:7th-millennium BC people[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 20#Category:7th-millennium BC people

Category:Misanthropy[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:44, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT - one eponymous article. would have nominated as a speedy C2F but there's a subcategory, also nominated for deletion. - car chasm (talk) 01:36, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Misanthropists[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:44, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SUBJECTIVECAT,WP:OPINIONCAT - this is a loosely defined term. also WP:SMALLCAT as currently only one member - car chasm (talk) 01:34, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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