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Category:Zaporizhia Raion[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 14:44, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is the subregion of Zaporizhzhia Oblast, and both are named after their main city Zaporizhzhia (the Ukrainian names translated use an adjective form of the city’s name, literally “Zaporizhzhian raion” and “Zaporizhzhian oblast”).  —Michael Z. 19:27, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support for consistency. (t · c) buidhe 21:22, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:China templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 11:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: use nomenclature of the article Greater China to avoid confusion between Category:China templates, Category:People's Republic of China templates, and Category:Republic of China (Taiwan) templates. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:17, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Girl Scouts who have earned the Gold Award[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 14:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD, this is non-defining. User:Namiba 13:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There's a list in the main article. DexDor (talk) 17:14, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OSE, WP:RGW. DexDor (talk) 17:14, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm open to deleting that as well. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:59, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Philly jawn: Since there is now an open nomination to delete the Eagles Scout category, does that change your iVote here? RevelationDirect (talk) 02:18, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as non-defining (e.g. for Nina Vasan). This can be covered in the relevant text (where it can be referenced), but isn't needed as a category. DexDor (talk) 17:14, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Doesn't meet the high standard of WP:OCAWARD. RevelationDirect (talk) 23:59, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails WP:OCAWARD, which requires the award be a defining characteristic of the notable person. No one is notable simply for earning the award. — Jkudlick ⚓ t ⚓ c ⚓ s 02:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People educated at The Scots College[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: Move to Option B: People educated at Scots College (Sydney). Unanimous move to Option B ends a long discussion on different threads after the RM ended in no consensus. (non-admin closure) SportingFlyer T·C 15:47, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per article title Scots College (Sydney) (without capitalized The). This nomination was opposed for speedy renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
copy of CFDS discussion
@Armbrust, Good Olfactory, and Fayenatic london: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Defer To match the outcome of the RM discussion, whether I agree with it or not. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Fayenatic london: The RM was closed as no consensus, and thus the main article remains at Scots College (Sydney). Armbrust The Homunculus 22:41, 4 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:China events templates[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 November 14#Category:China events templates

Small Japan categories[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 14:50, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These were previously nominated for deletion on 2 July as WP:SMALLCAT; some pages were added, and the CFDs were closed by non-admin user:Buidhe, in good faith but apparently without checking the contents. I came across them while following up closures at CFD July 27, and removed some of the member pages – in particular, national highways that are mentioned in articles on towns/villages should not also be categorised by those small places. After removing those, only three pages remain in each of these categories, so I am re-nominating them for discussion. Pinging Nihonjoe as a courtesy. – Fayenatic London 09:50, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Merging is not needed, all articles are already in a Tokushima subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:53, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Also, stop disparaging Buidhe by claiming he didn't bother to check the contents of the categories, Fayenatic london. That's rude and uncalled for. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:14, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Buidhe: I do beg your pardon. I was thinking that you could have taken account of this detailed comment by BrownHairedGirl, in one of the similar nominations on that page. However, I have checked the timing, and that comment was only added after your closes on that page, so I was wrong. Just above that comment there was a shorter one by Marcocapelle, that national routes do not belong in such categories, but you might well have missed that, or not realised its wider implications. Anyway, I did not mean to be rude, nor to discourage you from helping out again at CFD. – Fayenatic London 21:17, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Given that BHG (and maybe others...there were some nominated by others, IIRC) nominated a whole pile of them at once, it would be easy for Buidhe to have missed it. Walls of text can sometimes blur together. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:02, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Video games based on Biker Mice from Mars[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Biker Mice from Mars and Category:Video games based on animated television series. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:49, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: SMALLCAT ★Trekker (talk) 14:45, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:LDS Business College faculty[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename both. MER-C 14:44, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: School renamed as of September 1, 2020. Article about college moved to Ensign College Naraht (talk) 18:46, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominator agrees that the alumni cat should be moved as well.Naraht (talk) 13:55, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • REname both. There is a long precedent on this for renamed college. The rename needs to be reflected in the category headnote. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:17, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Meteorological institutes affiliated with universities[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 14:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, a slighty shorter title, alignment with parent Category:Research institutes and a slightly broader scope (no mandatory affiliation with a university). Marcocapelle (talk) 19:12, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge -- There will not be enough non-university ones to merit having a separate category. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:14, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to where? DexDor (talk) 11:14, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:ITU Radio Regulations[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: delete, with some of the contents upmerged to Category:International Telecommunication Union. Category:Radio stations and systems ITU and Category:Radiocommunication services ITU were not nominated, so they are in Category:International Telecommunication Union. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:57, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: listify as standardization isn't a defining feature of the children articles. fgnievinski (talk) 22:54, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Fgnievinski: if this is deleted, what should happen with the two subcategories? They belong somewhere in the telecommunications tree, don't they? Or should they be deleted too? Marcocapelle (talk) 18:52, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd suggest listifying and deleting as well. fgnievinski (talk) 18:57, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deaths by firearm in Balochistan[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 14:43, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:C2C. This article should name "Balochistan, Pakistan" instead of "Balochistan". Lettlerhello • contribs 18:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Roman Catholic Diocese of Lydda and Ramla[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. MER-C 14:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only two articles. The main article Roman Catholic Diocese of Lydda and Ramla is already in Category:Roman Catholic dioceses in the Crusader states so merging is not needed. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:26, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. There were more than one bishops of Lydda and Ramla, so the category can easily be expanded. Borsoka (talk) 02:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC) Meanwhile I created an article for the second bishop, Roger. Further four articles could easily be created. Borsoka (talk) 03:01, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can imagine more topic articles about the parishes, clerics of the bishopric. Furthermore, Lydda was also an Orthodox see. Borsoka (talk) 05:26, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Parishes and priests are hardly ever notable. The fact that Lydda was also an Orthodox see is irrelevant. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:11, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep (Or rename) -- As a crusader diocese, I suspect this had a short life. We do not need a separate "bishops" category; if anything, this might be repurposed as such, with the diocese becoming the main article. However, Category:Latin bishops of Lydda and Ramla might be better still. "Roman" is certainly not needed in the name. It may always remain a small category, but that cannot be helped. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:27, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Astronomy image articles[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Consensus against this merge. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 19:50, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It doesn't make sense nowadays to have "articles" in the name of a content category to distinguish it from media files (which should really be on Commons anyway). Merging would be a good solution. Mike Peel (talk) 19:46, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment it would be impossible to host them all on Commons, they do not all have compatible licenses -- 67.70.32.97 (talk) 04:33, 2 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Oppose merge These categories are not at all the same thing, and should not be merged. Neutral on renaming. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:40, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • For clarity, I oppose merge, per my message above and Pppery. —⁠andrybak (talk) 17:00, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fauna of the Pacific Northwest[edit]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 10:38, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This (created with no parent categories) category has been populated (only I think) with animals endemic to that region so that's probably what it's meant to be. We should try to avoid having a plethora of non-endemic overlapping categories as it results in very incomplete categories. Parent categories and the word "only" should be added. Note: A category of the same name was CFDed in January and the same outcome as that discussion is also an option. DexDor (talk) 07:04, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • If kept, rename per nom. I have added two parent and five subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I shall rename it to Endemic fauna of the Pacific Northwest. User:Chewitt99 —Preceding undated comment added 16:50, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Chewitt99: please do not undertake unilateral action. An uninvolved closer of the discussion will implement the consensus result. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:21, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename per nom. It now looks like a respectable category after Marcocapelle's additions. Oculi (talk) 20:45, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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