Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zulkarnain Zakaria (footballer, born 1974)

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The result was delete. So Why 17:15, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Zulkarnain Zakaria (footballer, born 1974)[edit]

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I couldn't find him on soccerway, in addition to the fact that the mentions I could find of him were from what seems to be a user-generated sort of thing. Overall, the player's existence is in doubt. See also: Zulkarnain Zakaria (referee) RileyBugz ^会話 _投稿記録 17:42, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - looks fishy to me on the face of it. Also currently an unsourced BLP. Fenix down (talk) 09:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - per non & Fenix down, looks suspiciously like WP:HOAX. Inter&anthro (talk) 23:39, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Striking out my deletion vote per the evidence ClubOranje has shown below, although I am still skeptical of the information displayed in the article. Will need some major cleanup if article is kept. Inter&anthro (talk) 20:02, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 16:00, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment was previously referenced, one a dead link, the other indicates he is assistant coach. There was a goalkeeper with this name who played for Semen Pedang and is now a goalkeeper coach there so not a Hoax.[1],[2],[3]. These might not all pass WP:RS and I don't read indonesian that well, but they at least prove existence. I am yet to find evidence of Indonesia National team appearances. There is also a legitimate referee (Malaysian, born 1982) who was/is a referee according to soccerway ClubOranje^T 11:20, 14 August 2017 (UTC)t[reply]

Add did not play international between 2000 and 2005 according to RSSSF. But they might be futsal appearances looking at one of the previous links. This link from bola.com says he was the main goalkeeper for Semen Pedang. ClubOranje^T 11:40, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete weak delete, because I cannot find evidence he played for the national team, and I can only find him at club level from 2007 and earlier, mostly on the bench. Afaik Indonesia did not have a fully pro league until 2008 and any team lists I found from then on did not include Zakaria So appears to fail WP:FOOTY. There are a number of mentions of him around, but apart from a blog (not RS) most other coverage is passing mention that he is the goalkeeper coach now at Semen Padang, and I don't see it as enough for WP:GNG ClubOranje^T 11:57, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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