Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yang Jing (composer)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I see a consensus to Keep this article after recent improvements. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:10, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yang Jing (composer)[edit]

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Seemingly NN composer, failing all 6 elements of WP:COMPOSER. The article has been largely written by 2 WP:SPA editors focused on this individual, one now indefinitely blocked for copyright violations and using Wikipedia for promotional purposes. Toddst1 (talk) 15:23, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Women, Music, China, and Switzerland. Skynxnex (talk) 17:26, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A Google search with her Chinese name found [1] and [2]. I'm not super sure about the two sources' reliability though. I will also note that the article on Chinese Wikipedia got deleted for being an advertisement. Mucube (talk • contribs) 05:07, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mucube, the Swissinfo is a reliable source but not sure for another one. Taung Tan (talk) 11:27, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. In English there is also the China Daily Asia article, "Plucking new heart strings", which quotes her but also includes a few facts about her life. Cielquiparle (talk) 08:36, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in light of additional sources found. I was ready to dismiss the article completely because it was in such terrible shape; obviously WP:PROMOTION does not belong on Wikipedia. But having now looked a bit deeper, there is quite a bit of meaningful coverage of Yang Jing as a pipa soloist and as a composer – in fact, it feels like the previous version of the article really wasn't doing her justice (and I doubt anyone got paid for that since it was full of factual errors, and/or if they were, one would hope someone got their money back). I've deleted some of the most problematic sections, and incorporated some facts from the most in-depth article so far in English (from China Daily Asia), which it overrelies on at the moment, but Wikipedia Library also returns several reviews of her recordings in English, and then there are many other articles to go through in German and Chinese (and possibly French). This is going to take some time to fix, so it's very much still a work in progress, but most definitely a "keep". Cielquiparle (talk) 10:04, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: Primary sources on the article that does not advance notability, two sources mentioned are a concert promotion, and the other about the Pipa. This site has some content that blurs the line between originsl research and puffery, "Yang Jing is obsessed with the joy of improvisation, which is not only a challenge of superb skills, but also a unique creation." It is not written as a quote so appears to be the author's wording as if the mind of the subject is an open book. At any rate, the source has a warning "This content is original by China Business News, and the copyright belongs to China Business News. Without the written authorization of China Business News, it may not be used in any way, including reprinting, excerpting, duplicating or mirroring.", so care should be observed." There is only one source (China Daily Asia in the article) that has in-depth coverage so I wonder if this is enough? -- Otr500 (talk) 23:05, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is more from Wikipedia Library. It will take some time to add, but the good news is that some of it is reviews, so it is independent. (And no, not puffery by any means.) Cielquiparle (talk) 00:23, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
(I usually like to wait until I've gone through all the sources to choose the strongest two or three, but I have added a couple of others to the article itself in the meantime.) Cielquiparle (talk) 00:28, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 02:25, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: A willingness to improve the sources is great, There is enough evidence towards notability. Also, for the record, the subject's Nine Jade Chains is pretty spectacular. -- Otr500 (talk) 02:36, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: because the article has greatly improved. So There is enough meet WP:GNG. Thanks Taung Tan (talk) 10:40, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.