Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Voodoosi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was redirect to trokosi. – Sceptre ^(Talk) 09:50, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Voodoosi

Unverifiable, does not google. Prod'ed, tag removed by anonymous contributor without editing or comment. Accurizer 19:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

• Strong Keep - So what if there is no google hits, most of Afrika doesnt even know what is internet. Article needs fixing up but otherwise its ok. Luka Jačov 20:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Comment please read the Wikipedia policy on verifiability, in particular the section "Verifiability, not truth". The standard for Wikipedia articles is that there are independent, verifiable sources quoted in the article that show the article is true. I have no reason to believe this article is untrue, but unless verfiable sources are provided it will likely be deleted. If as the article claims, there are many Human rights groups and Christian NGOs working to eliminate this practice I would expect there to be references to it (not necessarily via Google) that could be quoted in the article. Thanks, Gwernol 20:06, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as unverified. If, as the entry alleges "Human rights groups and Christian NGO's are working to try to eradicate the practice and free the slaves", there would be news stories and, yes, google hits. Without such, we have to assume this is a hoax. Bucketsofg 20:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC) Redirect to trokosi per Saforrest. Bucketsofg 20:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  • It's certainly not a hoax; it just doesn't seem to be called by that name. Look at trokosi and associated Google hits, e.g. this. --Saforrest 20:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep See nothing wrong with it, just needs attention —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.188.1.103 (talk • contribs) .
• Comment The article says that the practice of "voodoosi" in Togo and Benin is the equivalent of "trokosi" in Ghana. However, from a number of sources like [1] and the trokosi article, it seems that the word "trokosi" is also used for this practice in Togo and Benin; I can't find any evidence for a different word being used in those countries. The word "voodoosi" doesn't turn up anything but a lot of hits in German, which seem to refer to voodoo practitioners in the New World. --Saforrest 20:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  • The jist of my comment above: I can't substantiate this word, and it looks like the term "trokosi" already covers it. --Saforrest 14:12, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

• Redirect to trokosi, as this article contains nothing distinct from what is there. --Saforrest 20:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect per Saforrest. Gwernol 20:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep --ςerbiana ♫ 21:03, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

• KeepThis is a potentially important article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Musoniki (talk • contribs) .
  • Musoniki, can you explain how "voodoosi" is different from "trokosi" and provide a reference (ideally an online one) for using the word "voodoosi" for this practice? --Saforrest 03:44, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Repeated question on Musoniki's talk page. --Saforrest 01:59, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep It is true that the practice, more technically known as ritual servitude, is very similar to trokosi in Ghana, so much so that when people from Ghana talk about it, they almost always use the word trokosi. This is because they are talking about it in terms with which they are familiar. However, if you go to Togo and Benin, you will find very few people who even know what trokosi is or have ever heard of it. If you ask them about voodoosi, though, you will get a different response and they will immediately respond. The campaign to eliminate this practice is well-established in Ghana but only beginning in Togo and Benin. An article that uses the term that is familiar in those countries will be very useful. That's why I think a separate entry rather than a mere redirect is necessary. Musoniki

Note This editor has already voted keep in this discussion Gwernol 02:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Africa-related deletions. -- Humansdorpie 10:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
• Redirect per Saforrest. Humansdorpie 10:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.