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The result was delete. One of the more impressive examples of puppetry I've seen in a while. Given the history of recreation, I'm going to salt this title, as several participants suggested. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:46, 9 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vivek Kumar Pandey[edit]

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The third (at least) in a series of articles created about an academic of no clear notability.

As the nominator of both Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey (ending in delete on 30 January 2008) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vivek Kumar Pandey (ending in delete on 14 August 2011), and also the most prolix contributor to a deletion review for the latter (ending in Userified, but may not be suitable for there. No support for overturning deletion on 20 August 2011), it might be claimed that I'm a little too closely related to this subject to speedy the latest resuscitation (G4). And so I bring it to the attention of y'all.

The latest article doesn't strike me as demonstrating any more notability than its predecessors did. Because this matter has been rather a waste of time and may well continue to be, I propose deletion and salting. -- Hoary (talk) 00:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete and Salt. Scholarly achievements totally inadequate for WP:Prof [3]. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:50, 1 August 2014 (UTC).[reply]
  • Delete and salt. Notability still not evident. —David Eppstein (talk) 02:44, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. This should be the 3rd nomination. Xxanthippe (talk) 02:52, 1 August 2014 (UTC).[reply]
    • Response. Perhaps wrongheadedly, I supposed that the title would convey "2nd nomination of an article titled 'Vivek Kumar Pandey'". Titling it "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vivek Kumar Pandey (3rd nomination)" would I think have brought other complications. ¶ Incidentally, additionally salting "Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey" (with and without the dot) could be a good idea. -- Hoary (talk) 10:34, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am sure you are right. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:19, 1 August 2014 (UTC).[reply]
If this ends with "delete", perhaps also delete User:Vivek Kumar Pandey, which is the draft for an article. -- Hoary (talk) 12:42, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

मेरे द्वारा सिद्ध किया हुआ 5 प्रमुख तथ्य: १)हिन्द=जम्बूद्वीप =यूरेसिआ=यूरोप+एशिया= या कम से कम ईरान से सिंगापुर और कश्मीर से कन्याकुमारी और भारत=भारतवर्ष=भरत-खंड=अखंड भारत| २) इस्लाम समानांतर चलता है श्रीराम के और ईसाइयत सामानांतर चलती है श्रीकृष्ण के और जिस प्रकार श्रीराम बड़े हैं श्रीकृष्ण के उसी प्रकार इस्लाम बड़ा भाई है ईसाइयत का। 3) हिन्द भूमि(जम्बूद्वीप =यूरेसिआ=यूरोप+एशिया= या कम से कम ईरान से सिंगापुर और कश्मीर से कन्याकुमारी) न की केवल भारतवर्ष भूमि(भारतवर्ष=भरत-खंड=अखंड भारत) कई बार आर्यावर्त हो चुका है हस्तिनापुर राजा भरत के भारतवर्ष को आर्यावर्त घोषित करने के पहले तो आइये हम विश्व महासंघ को भी आर्यावर्त बनाये मतलब विश्व का हर नागरिक श्रेष्ठ(आर्य) हो। 4) श्रीराम के समानांतर इस्लाम और श्रीकृष्ण के समानांतर ईसाइयत संचालन ही सिद्ध करता है की तुम (इस्लाम और ईसाइयत) मेरे हो मतलब आप दोनों की उपज भी सनातन धर्मी ही है। यह अलग की गाय-गंगा-गीता-गौरी पर मतभेद रह गया है। Origin in the different climatic system may causes these differences. 5) इस संसार को चलाने के लिए सनातन हिन्दू संस्कृति के साथ ही साथ अन्य धर्म की शिक्षा-संस्कृति और परम्पराओं की भी जरूरत है भौगोलिक जलवायु खंड को ध्यान में रखते हुए पर इसका मतलब यह नहीं की ये सनातन संस्कृति की सीमा से परे हैं।

              • जय हिन्द(जम्बूद्वीप =यूरेसिआ=यूरोप+एशिया= या कम से कम ईरान से सिंगापुर और कश्मीर से कन्याकुमारी), जय भारत(भारतवर्ष=भरत-खंड=अखंड भारत), जय श्रीराम/कृष्ण।

In my view article of such person is notable one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.156.187 (talk) 13:32, 3 August 2014 (UTC) — 117.199.156.187 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

  • Keep. As a Cadet and Scientist he is position holder: He visited ICTP, Italy in August, 2004 as visiting scientist to join the course on climate dynamics and he is also position holder in 96 Uttar Pradesh Battalion (UP BN), Jaunpur and thus the Varanasi group of Indian NCC (Army Wing) in 2007. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.156.187 (talk) 13:49, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Strike possibly WP:SOC and WP:COI. CutestPenguin {talk • contribs} 16:45, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reverting strikeout. The suspicion that a commenter here might be a sockpuppet (of whom?) or have a conflict of interest is not a good reason to strike out the comment. (Indeed, certainty that a commenter has a conflict of interest wouldn't be good reason, and certain sockpuppetry might not be either.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:40, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Struck out second "keep". You only get to say "keep" (or "delete") once. -- Hoary (talk) 22:44, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per nomination. CutestPenguin {talk • contribs} 16:47, 3 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. It seems that the person using Nokia is forced to insert line breaks; it's these that screw up the AfD template, as well as much else besides. Attempting to use my own (non-Nokia) dumbphone for editing an article would have the same disastrous result. (I'd never consider using it for such a purpose.) -- Hoary (talk) 00:50, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Article of notable person have multidimensional approach for benefit of humanity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.151.0 (talk) 06:00, 4 August 2014 (UTC) — 117.199.151.0 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Keep. If above five facts given in Hindi is of Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey and also the text in the article too make him National and International importance. Thus article of such notable person needed to preserve and keep on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.146.109 (talk) 06:43, 4 August 2014 (UTC) — 117.199.146.109 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
@Hoary: Now above these two votes signifies a lot. Well, in my comment I mentioned 'possibly' which mean I am not sure. CutestPenguin {talk • contribs} 08:37, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Cutest Penguin, if you're not sure that one "!vote" (as they're called hereabouts) is by a sockpuppet of somebody who has already made a !vote, then don't strike it through. And even if you are sure, don't strike it through. This AfD will be closed by somebody who will be competent to judge the relative probabilities for him/herself. For this reason, I have again removed your strike-through. Please don't strike through again, unless you are very sure of what you are doing. Although if you were definitely in the right, then the rightness would be evident to another editor who could dispassionately make the same strike through, so again there'd no rush for you to do it. (When would you be in the right? If you had strong reason to believe that a comment was posted by the sockpuppet of a blocked or banned user, or if a comment were grossly offensive -- and I haven't seen any allegation of either.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:54, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I gone through his blog "Vivekanand and Modern Tradition", I found it very creative idea such as humanity originated from Prayag(Allahabad) from Saptarshi and Allahabad is the place where three major religions (Hindu, Islam and Christianity are present with their potential; and Islam work parallel to Shri Ramaism and Christianity works parallel to Shri Krishnaism is his most important at least for Indian point of view as well as for world's point of view and his this outcome of the thoughts which he discussed in his blog very clearly makes him notable. Also as an academician and scientist he has good presentation. I therefore want his article on it in the same form because obviously he is notable. let us have a visit on his blog "Vivekanand and Modern Tradition"[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.214.132.235 (talk) 11:39, 4 August 2014 (UTC) \ — 117.214.132.235 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  1. ^ "Vivekanand and Modern Tradition". Pandey's famous blog
  • Comment. As urged by 117.214.132.235 (contributions) elsewhere on this page, I visited "Pandey's famous blog". It's a mixture of English and Hindi. Unfortunately I cannot read the latter, but the former contains much Deep Thought, most (all?) of which is too Deep for me as well as inexplicably duplicated. This is a shortish example: in common with every entry I have glanced at, this hasn't attracted a single response -- which, for a "famous blog", is surprising. (Compare the degree of audience participation at, say, "Bike Snob NYC", whose more or less anonymous author is written up as a blogger in the NYT.) However, my mere impressions are of little importance, if any. If Pandey's blog is indeed of unusual significance, then where are the independent, published sources that say this? -- Hoary (talk) 22:33, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The Islam who work parallel to Shri Ramaism is elder brother of Christianity who works parallel to Shri Krishnaism as Shri Ram is Elder than Shri Krishna in all means. This statement given by Dr. Pandey in his blog is very important for the world society. As a pesonal I see him on his facebook and found this blog view in one week at a particular date as a famous blog evidence is as follows(described by Dr. Pandey on 23 July on his faceebook account): My blog "Vivekanand and Modern Tradition" has more than 24500 page views from all over the world since August, 2013 to till date. Entry Pageviews in one week: United States/172, India/117, Germany/25, Australia/49, United Arab Emirates/ 2, Bahrain/1, France/1, Malaysia/1, Netherlands/1, Russia/1, Nepal/4, Bulgaria/1, Japan/1| I found him notable as a scientist, academician, social worker and philosopher and as a creative member of this world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.159.126 (talk) 05:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC) — 117.199.159.126 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
    • "Japan/1" was probably me. ¶ The question is not "Does some anonymous person here find him notable as a scientist, academician, social worker and philosopher and as a creative member of this world?" Instead, it's "What do independent, published, reliable sources say about him?" -- Hoary (talk) 09:26, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. We have some scientific works of Dr. Pandey which is important for mathematical modeling and reanalysis of Indonesian throughflow and Indian Ocean Dynamics as well as for the Climatic importance of the society from a newly born centre in year 2001 having less computational facility in comparison with the other International Centre and also important that his work is his standalone work rather than a big group. Dr. Pandey’s 5 recent papers on climate dynamics quoted on NCAR/UCAR Climate Data Guide and RAMA publications as publication from University of Allahabad[1][2], his works on Indonesian throughflow and Indian Ocean Dynamics are quoted in Princeton Ocean Model publication in form of 4 publication[3]and also one of the co-authored work “Mathematical Modelling of Atmosphere and Ocean Processes around Antarctica” as a Review paper edited by NCAOR, Goa, HeadLland Sada, Vasco-da-Gama, 2007 is also quoted as search by Pandey[4]. I hope for a academician of 100% presence in the institution and having scientific attitude at place like University of Allahabad it is a good performance. We need having him on Wikipedia as a notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.244.247 (talk) 10:45, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Is this why you removed the AfD template? But whatever the reason for that, it wasn't as interesting an edit as this one, in which you added to User:Vivek Kumar Pandey a potted description of V K Pandey's editing of English-language Wikipedia -- a description that seems to describe your editing. If you are V K Pandey, simply write in the first person; if you're not, perhaps you can explain your editing of V K Pandey's user page and the curious resemblance between you and him. -- Hoary (talk) 12:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. As we have following discussion from his web page: Pandey honored as the Proud of University of Allahabad as Proud of Allahabad University Alumni Assocaition since 2008[5]"Pandey is the Proud Past of AU Alumni". Pandey is the proud of Allahabad University</ref>. Encyclopedia article in English have Dr Pandey's Unique Identifier-4780316397 of OCLC WorldCat: Pandey's Biography added in the OCLC WorldCat and MARQUIS WHO'S WHO DISTINGUISHED RESEARCH SCIENTIST in 2009[6][7][8] and he is also I honored as TOP 100 Scientist 2010 by International Biographical Centre (IBC), Cambridge.[9]. Keep the article14.139.244.243 (talk) 11:49, 5 August 2014 (UTC) — 14.139.244.243 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  1. ^ “Dr. Pandey’s 5 recent papers on Climate Dynamics”. All the 5 papers based on reanalysis/evaluation of NCEP Global Ocean Data Assimilation System (GODAS) using Research Moored Array for African-Asian-Australian Monsoon Analysis and Prediction (RAMA) are quoted in NCAR/UCAR Climate Data Guide as comments
  2. ^ “Dr. Pandey’s 5 recent papers on Climate Dynamics”. Quoted as RAMA publications in 2010-11-13/14
  3. ^ “Pandey’s paper on Indonesian Throughflow using Princeton Ocean Model(POM) in the POM model publication list”. POM Model publication list search result of Pandey, Vivek Kumar
  4. ^ “Antarctica related mathematical modeling work”. Quoted on POM publication list
  5. ^ "Dr. Pandey is the Proud Past Alumni of Allahabad University Alumni Association". Dr. Pandey is Allahabad University Alumni Association's proud i.e. proud of University of Allahabad
  6. ^ http://www.worldcat.org/title/vivek-kumar-pandey "Dr. Pandey's Biograpy is included in encyclopedic biography"]. Dr. Pandey's biography added in OCLC WorlCat biography as the list say
  7. ^ [1]
  8. ^ "Vivek's biography in Marquis Whos Who online data". Pandey's brief biography in Marquis online data sets
  9. ^ [2]
  • Comments. I have following details about alumni award of Dr. Pandey: At present Allahabad University Alumni Association web site is [1], Past or oldest or as it is at least latest 2008 Allahabad University Alumni web site of declaration of Proud Past Alumni(Famous alumni include is[2][3], and middle age web site of declaration of Proud Past Alumni(Famous alumni include is[4][5], and further associated dummy web page in the supports are here:[6][7][8][9][10][11]. I have expectation from the members in the debates that they should not have any confusion on his honour as time to time since 2008 to 2012 this leeast was on the declaration list of Proud Past Alumni/famous Alumni of University of Allahabad Alumni Association. Also Dr. Pandey is well known for his staying in Allahabad University leaving NCAOR, Goa for the purpose of not his own but for benefit of the common man and it is well known that the K. Banerjee Centre of Atmospheric and Ocean Studies was initially funded be the NCAOR and a lay man who have a little ambition of becoming a good scientist could not leave the source i.e. the NCAOR at the time of 2001 and it was Pandey who sacrifices to fulfil the aim of high authority and highly educated persons of Allahabad at that time and even at this time too. His academics excellence should be searched in his blog which none can give here surviving in Allahabad as a common man and easily working in the University of Allahabad. How he given the good words for the social and religious matter from on which there is no comments from any caste and society. This is because every one finds him from all caste and religion belonging even from a Sanatam Brahmin family.14.139.244.243 (talk) 06:44, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ “UoA, Alumni”. Alumni web site
  2. ^ “Proud Past of UoA, Alumni Association/Famous Alumni”. Oldest web site of the Allahabad University Alumni Association
  3. ^ “Prous Past Alumni declaration web page capture”. Proud Past Alumni of Allahabad University Alumni Association
  4. ^ “June 2012 i.e. middle age web page of declaration of Proud Past Alumni of University of Allahabad”. Middle age web page of University of Allahabad Alumni web page
  5. ^ “Proud Past supporting web capture”. Proud Past of University of Allahabad alumni Association
  6. ^ “Proud Past of UoA, as on second web page PDF”. Allahabad University Alumni Association
  7. ^ [ https://www.academia.edu/3337883/Allahabad_University_Alumni_Association_AUAA_Ghziabad_chapter_registered_under_Society_Act_1860_with_Registration_No._407_2000_List_of_42_Proud_Past_Alumni_of_the_University_of_Allahabad_not_a_book_but_proof_of_honor_to_42th_personality_“Proud of Past Alumni list as a proof”]
  8. ^ “Proud Past of UoA, DOC”. Allahabad University Alumni Association
  9. ^ “Proud Past of UoA, PDF as on first web page started from 2000 i.e. oldest part 1”. Allahabad University Alumni Association
  10. ^ “Proud Past of UoA, PDF as on first web page started from 2000 i.e. oldest part 2 of part 1 in which Dr. Pandey's name included”. Allahabad University Alumni Association
  11. ^ ““Proud Past of UoA, DOC”. Allahabad University Alumni Association
  • Keep. If any registered Alumni Association keep the name of his Proud of Past Alumni/Famous Alumni on his web page since 2008 to 2012/13 and person is real alumni of the University and also all the details about that paticular alumni is correct and match with his carrier then such declared Proud Past alumnae Dr. Pandey is the real Proud Past and no one should go on exception of any ex-Prime-Minister of India(wrongly quoted). If the University of Allahabad Alumni Association or any other person denie his declaration about the members actually the alumnae of University of Allahabad then this will create a dis-famousion claim by law of India. Pandey is an patent in activities as a true India by the Inter-National Self Servant organization of Allahabad i.e. the national and international thinker of Allahabad and this is the reason he has written clearly each and every message on his blog "Vivekanand and Modern Tradition". His Sanatan/Eternal Brahmin family is the indirect energy of his own and there is no force to force him to speak the untruth thus in a well manner he connected Hindu and his associated religion as 1st part; Islam and his associated wings as 2nd part; and Christian and his associated religion as 3rd part and finally by Shri Ramaism and Shri Krishnaism he connected Islam and Christianity with the Sanatan Hindu i.e. the Hindu as both works parallel either of the Shri Ramaism and Shri Krishnaism respectively. Thus this patent of confluence of Tri-Power/Tri-River/Triveni/Prayag/Allahabad will travel a long way in the International society for a long time. I therefor want the article of this patent of Allahabad i.e. the article of Pandey on the wikipedia for ever so that people could track his activities in future which will be very beneficial for the Indian community and therefore the World community.117.241.104.19 (talk) 10:52, 6 August 2014 (UTC) — 117.241.104.19 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hinduism-related deletion discussions. Hoary (talk) 12:51, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment: I find it extraordinarily difficult to understand the more favorable comments above, but gather that there's a claim that Pandey is notable as a religious thinker and blogger on matters pertaining to Hinduism, Islam and Christianity. If this is so, then people knowledgable about and dispassionately interested in one or more of these religions should be invited to comment. I've therefore transcluded this AfD in the DELSORT page of each of these three religions. I hope that the closing administrator allows time for comments by such people. -- Hoary (talk) 12:51, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Pandey has no scholarship whatsoever in this area: no published books in WorldCat and no research papers in any humanities journal. Consequently, it is ipso facto clear that he has no notability stemming from whatever knowledge he might have regarding religion. Agricola44 (talk) 13:20, 6 August 2014 (UTC).[reply]
  • I don't dispute some of your premisses, Agricola44. Moreover, I can derive no sense from either (A) what little I've glanced at of his writing in English about religion on his blog or (B) the praise for this as presented above. But I'm aware that much (most?) writing about religion makes no sense to me (or/so is deeply soporific). Religious significance (as I very hazily understand it) isn't limited to academic theology. The article "Interfaith dialogue" suggests that, from India, one Morari Bapu is important. The (very dodgy looking) article on the latter doesn't hint that he has what would normally be called scholarship, any published books in WorldCat or any research papers in any humanities journal. (Rather, he gives "9 day-long sermons".) So I'd be interested to see what those people who, unlike me, can make sense of religion would dispassionately say about religious significance (if any) here. -- Hoary (talk) 23:32, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Article created on the day before birth day of Dr. Pandey (DOB:01-08-1976) who given important facts1) that Islam works parallel to Shri Ramaism and Christianity works parallel to Shri Krishnaims and as Shri Ram is elder than Shri Krishna therefore Islam is elder than Christianity.2) Kashi-Varanasi is the first place of Lord Shiva on the Earth and after that he went to Mount Kailash. Lord Shiva originated at Kashi with his tri-power/Trishul Shakti i.e. with Kedareswar, Mahamrityunjay and Vishveswar/Vishwanath. These fact are very interesting results of his thoughts on his blog "Vivekanand and Modern Tradition". The conclusion of his blog by religious experts and philosopher is very important for our scattered world society who are fighting against each other for there tiny selfishness and identity. I hope the goal of Dr. Pandey is to make the world as a village and people of world as a family. Some one in the debate said that tracking of Dr. Pandey will be easy by world community if his article will be here is almost better if we catch and read Dr. Pandey as an academician, scientist, philosopher, blogger, a common man of the world society with a permanent service in University of Allahabad and a villager of his both residence Bishunpur-Jaunpur and Ramapur which also say that he is from the Sanatan/Eternal Brahmin Family too. At least he influenced from Indian Institute of Science Bangalore, Banaras Hindu University and University of Allahabad where is good existence of all the religions. I suggest to keep him here.117.199.150.36 (talk) 06:38, 7 August 2014 (UTC) — 117.199.150.36 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Comment. I have some of the references of his publications present on Worldcat also his own article on Worldcat library and other internatinal forum:

https://getinfo.de/app/Evaluation-of-GODAS-Using-RAMA-Mooring-Observations/id/BLSE%3ARN348875332 http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01490419.2013.859642 http://scienceindex.com/stories/3948367/Evaluation_of_GODAS_Using_RAMA_Mooring_Observations_from_the_Indian_Ocean.html http://www.argo.ucsd.edu/Bibliography.html http://www.worldcat.org/title/vivek-kumar-pandey https://www.worldcat.org/title/evaluation-of-godas-using-rama-mooring-observations-from-the-indian-ocean/oclc/5423921429&referer=brief_results http://sciencealerts.com/stories/2834797/Evaluation_of_GODAS_Using_RAMA_Mooring_Observations_from_the_Indian_Ocean.html https://www.worldcat.org/title/evaluation-of-godas-using-rama-mooring-observations-from-the-indian-ocean/oclc/5542219542&referer=brief_results https://www.worldcat.org/title/itf-and-poleward-heat-transport-of-indian-ocean/oclc/360690557&referer=brief_results https://www.worldcat.org/title/itf-and-poleward-heat-transport-of-indian-ocean/oclc/4901293829&referer=brief_results http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01490410802265658?queryID=%24{resultBean.queryID} http://eprints.iisc.ernet.in/16171/ http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tao/rama/ramapubs.html https://climatedataguide.ucar.edu/climate-data/tropical-moored-buoy-system-tao-triton-pirata-rama-toga |14.139.244.243 (talk) 09:12, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: he may have written papers, but Google Scholar shows that virtually nobody is taking any notice -- he has an h-index of only 2 (the lowest I've ever seen when considering WP:PROF at AfD). And if he's seriously arguing that Islam is older than Christianity, then WP:FRINGE applies too. -- 101.117.59.207 (talk) 09:23, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. We read above (in a contribution of this person in Allahabad) that Pandey given important facts1) that Islam works parallel to Shri Ramaism and Christianity works parallel to Shri Krishnaims [sic] and as Shri Ram is elder than Shri Krishna therefore Islam is elder than Christianity. Of course what really matters is the degree to which independent, published, reliable sources say that Pandey gave (or given) important facts. Perhaps an IP can provide links. In the meantime, though: This seems Extremely Deep Thought. The reasoning seems to be: "If (i) x "works parallel to" belief in a, (ii) y "works parallel to" belief in b, (iii) a is older than b, then x is older than y. ¶ According to some encyclopedia I found on the web, Islam is very roughly six hundred years younger than Christianity. I take the IP's word for the claim that "Islam works parallel to Shri Ramaism and Christianity works parallel to Shri [Krishnaism]". I'm not familiar with "work parallel to" in a formalism; I can't think what it means other than "is parallel to". If Islam is parallel to Ramaism and Christianity is parallel to Krishnaism, then (as "p is parallel to q" is commutative) Ramaism is parallel to Islam and Krishnaism. And by the IP's account of Pandey's logic, Ramaism is therefore younger than Krishnaism. -- Hoary (talk) 13:16, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments. I am very agree with the Dr. Pandey's blog's every statement and after realization in deep I also found each religion meets to Sanatan Hindu and also it is similar in some extent to Swami Vivekananda. But now Dr. Pandey completed it being a Sanatan/eternal Brahmin while Swami Vivekanand was not a perfect Brahmin but only a Rajaswa Brahmin/Kayashth of Bengali Hindu family and pupil of Swami Ramakrishna Paramhans who belong from perfect Brahmin family. That is why some thing was missing with him due to fact of two bodies view differences although it was a good effort of Swami ji(conversation converted in some extent to lag in exact meaning). His brief biography on Worldcat library significant of what? [1]14.139.244.247 (talk) 10:26, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "Dr. Pandey's biography in Worldcat Library". Worldcat library have Dr. Pandey's biography
  • Keep. As per our best knowledge, belief and faith in the religion Dr. Pandey's view on his blog is to make a gather the scattered world indeed and I found him most notable person of the world in these days of disturbed world. He is good academician or bad it is not matter here but as I know from the different sources that he was not able to get the time to make himself a very best scientist and academician but he was overladed with the responsibilities which was based on the behaviour and cooperation of others and whose view was also different with him but finaly he succeed due to his great resistance power and personality. Now the person and student will take benefit of his aim to become a good scientist and academician fore ever. He was pillar of that work which gives immense pleasure to the humanity and now it is over. Therefore I need his article on wikipedia and thanks in advance for keep him here.14.139.244.243 (talk) 11:45, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It is clear from debate that article on Pandey is notable as per his over all noble personalty. We have a better future under his guidance and a better academic and scientist hidden in him but he could not get to perform on the platform of UoA because of the international ship which he was leading for make a safe future of world on that ship others have different view and goal against him. I expect that in all respect pandey's article on wikipedia is most needful and extraordinary as looks from his blog. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.89.128.63 (talk • contribs) — 59.89.128.63 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
  • ‘‘‘Keep’’’. About the matter in his blog and benefit to the World community regarding religious and philosophical view and athentification and make perfect the work of Swami Vivekananda we have to look back ground of Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey: he is from a village Ramapur donated by Muslim/Islam following Landlord and his grand father Bachan Ram’s closed friend in Mumbai was great christian of India George Fernandes during the leadership of trade union; he belong from a family of Sanatan/Eternal Kashyap/Kashmir Gotriya Brahmin; and he born in Sanatan/Eternal Vashishtha/Mount Kailash Gotriya Brahmin family of his father’s maternal father belongs to Bishunpur donated by Kshatriya landlord where he live for whole life before he came to Prayag/Triveni/Allahabad and people of these village are Sanatan/ Eternal Gautam/Gorakhpur/Mount Kailash Gotriya (Baudh:Gautam Budhdha:Gautam Gotriya Kshatriya]] Brahmin. ----Please tell how such person will not complete the aim of Swami Vivekananda by his blog “Vivekanand and Modern Tradition”[1]. I understand that the blog of Pandey is view of the world as he belong from the family of Prem Chand Pandey and also among his closest who is world fame personality from India. Thus I personaly found Dr. Pandey notable who maintain the order of Professor Prem Chand Pandey for completeing the aim and objective of his Guru Professor Murali Manohar Joshi and Professor Srivastava Ji for the University of Allahabad, India and thus for the World community.27.124.24.6 (talk) 14:33, 7 August 2014 (UTC) — 27.124.24.6 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  1. ^ “Vivekanand and Modern Tradition”. Blog of Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey
  1. ^ “Membership No. F/347”. (PDF) Society of Earth Scientist we page have record of the Fellow of Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey
  2. ^ “Pandey is life member of International Academy of Physical Sciences in Academy membership no. N14231”. Pandey life member of IAPS
  3. ^ “IMS Directory of Life member tag have membership no. 1034 for Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey”. Indian meteorological Society web Site have life membership record of Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey
  • Delete and salt. Does not show any notability as concerns Wikipedia, and far from it, it reads like a CV for a job application. I have never seen a Wikipedia article scrape the barrel so definitively: "high marks in High School examination"; "his blog view page more than 25000 within one year"; "1st prize in science quize". And this reads like it was included so as to pander to the government or an employer who might be reading the article rather than a general reader: "Moderate thoughts of Nationalism and Internationalism but he involves himself in such activities in his own personal routine time after performing his daily academic and scientific responsibilities." -Lopifalko (talk)
  • Comment. As per actual date of birth he born on 11:11( November 11):1975 i.e. on the National Education Day (India). Please tell me how many paper published by Shri Ram and Shri Krishna? Answer comes that all the paper published by the Valmiki and Tulsidas and Maharshi Vyas ji based on their life. How many paper published by Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh? Answer comes that the whole humanity of the world based on Seven Brahmarshi i.e. Saptarshi have written so many papers on then and still there is no any end of this and still the Rishis/Scientists are writing and publishing paper on them or on the Super personality created by them and also many papers are being published on the combined of the Trimurti i.e Brahma+Vishnu+Mahesh i.e. on the Parambrahm i.e. on the Parmeshwar i.e. on the God i.e. on the Allah i.e. on the Brahm i.e. on the Sita-Rama i.e. on the Radha-Krishna i.e. on the Ram-Janki i.e. on the Radhe-Krishna. Publication of paper needed a base and that base is Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey since 2001 for the humanity. If you have no resources and no topic then how and on what you will write a paper. If there is no existence of Nature/Women and Purush/Men then even Parambrahm/Brahm have no any shape and thus this universe have no life/humanity and in such case life will combined with matter i.e. the Brahm and thus he will called the perfect Allah and in case of Dr. Pandey in 2001, when not even a single a family members either men and women were with him i.e. not understanding his grief but only want to fulfil the dream and objective of Professor Murali Manohar Joshi (i.e the supreme God of Allahabad at that particular time), which was given to solve to his family(own and maternal uncle's) in that case he fulfil this with his physical presence(not from outside) means such work one do from out side in general case(the work was to save the humanity of the world generated by Saptarshi of Prayag/Allahabad not only a foundation of a centre of university and also to found a substitute of the basic building block of the society from Allahabad who will take place of the old age Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh present in the humanity in the India and world and in more extent that is over).14.139.244.243 (talk) 10:44, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello to you at Allahabad University! Sorry, but gods and numerology fail to excite me. Instead let's talk about the number three. Just today, you deleted the AfD template from the article once, twice, thrice. Why is this? Do you find "Please do not remove or change this AfD message until the issue is settled" hard to understand? -- Hoary (talk) 13:25, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- This is a horrible article. It does not help that so many "friends and supporters" seem to be intervening. The question is ultimately whether the subject's academic publications are imnportant enough to meet WP:ACADEMIC. Running a blog certainly does not amount to that, nor (unless he is supposed to be a theologian) should anything related to Hindu or other gods. If he has done (and published in peer-reviewed jounrals) important academic work that work needs to be properly described and cited. If not, the article should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterkingiron (talk • contribs)
  • Given to me no reasonable sources. Delete I want to see this, horrible article that seems, victim of bable fish it is, Yoda me told. Serten (talk) 15:28, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. After all the article is not less degree notable than any most important article on the Wikipedia. There is many aspects which have any source on the web page of the internet as once ability can be judge by a personal meet with him. I have a look on Dr. Pandey and his personalities personally and socially from near and there and found unique on this earth. I just say that on the over all debates that it is Dr. Pandey who is more important than the his article on this Wikipedia. Keep it fore ever to track his life graph which will be going to rise very fast in near future on the world map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.153.251 (talk) 16:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC) — 117.199.153.251 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
  • Keep. Article is notable one and am agree with the just above request to keep. Pandey is the more over important and notable than he linked on any web page. We should have his article for future perspective as the IP argued about Dr. Pandey.117.199.154.35 (talk) 11:16, 9 August 2014 (UTC) — 117.199.154.35 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
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