Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Upper gnilovsky cemetery

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The result was keep per consensus. The article is a bit rough but there is a strong sense that notability has been established. Ad Orientem (talk) 01:51, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Upper gnilovsky cemetery[edit]

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No sources to be found for this cemetery. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:19, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 13:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 10:10, 21 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Linked to ruwiki, where there are a number of sources to be found. Seems notable to me but I'll let other users evaluate. —innotata 04:01, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Warm Regards, ZI Jony (talk) 16:19, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I added the references from the corresponding article in the Russian Wikipedia. I think notability is now established. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:19, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment @Eastmain: The references you copied from ru.wiki include a citation to Википедия (ru.wiki) (invalid -- see WP:CIRCULAR), a citation to WikiMapia (unreliable), and a citation to All-Russian register of cemeteries (insignificant). Three other citations are about the people buried at the cemetery (none of whom have en.wiki articles, so should not be included in lists of notable graves). The only valid citation given is the article about cemeteries in Rostov going unmaintained, wherein this particular cemetery is held up as one of several examples of the problem. All in all, I don't think these sources are sufficient to say that this is a notable cemetery. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:59, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: @WikiDan61: The articles about people who are buried there also provide significant coverage of the cemetery itself. This is not a list of notable people like those that often appear in articles about towns and cities. It is material about burials at the cemetery that contributes to establishing notability. I suspect that references from reliable sources exist about most long-established cemeteries,but language barriers and the lack of an Internet presence for pre-Internet material cause some difficulty in finding those references. Also, I added http://bloknot-rostov.ru/news/v-rostove-na-verkhne-gnilovskom-kladbishche-oruduyu-649090 See translation: In Rostov on the Upper-Gnilovsky cemetery vandals The unreliable references are helpful in establishing context. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 15:15, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep now that references have been added to show notability. Jmertel23 (talk) 17:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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