Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Adventures of Brer Rabbit

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy Keep (non-admin closure) Leonard^(Bloom) 05:23, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Adventures of Brer Rabbit[edit]

I can't find any reliable sources that show the movie's notability. Schuym1 (talk) 01:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak~~ Keep since it was nominated for a Annie Award and has some notable names to it (Danny Glover, Wayne Brady). I agree it does not meat the WP:NF guidelines but I tend to give more leeway to children's animation films since the tend to not get the press of an full length, blockbuster, theater released, adult oriented movie. Lets face it there are not a lot of critics that like to go out and bash little kids favorite Disney movie. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 01:52, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Universal is a major studio so probably good to give this one the benefit of the doubt. People checking out the actors' careers will probably be interested. Northwestgnome (talk) 02:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete Schuym1 has something of a point... Only 2 reviews on MRQE (neither apparently major), Rotten Tomatoes apparently has nothing in reviews, IMdB lists nothing in reviews, and while it lists major talents as voices I doubt that this film is a major part of any of their careers. So there isn't any of the documentation I can find easily that would be in line with Notability guideline for films. Maybe this is a time for a common sense exception, but considering that the article has been around for 2 years, it seems like there's been plenty of time to find sources and improve (were it a priority for anyone.) Wouldn't really care if it were kept, though. LaughingVulcan 02:28, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep If anyone had bothered Googling, ("The Adventures of Brer Rabbit" 2006) the first page contains a New York Times Review (which also appears other places) and an UPI blurb. Google News shows it's been mentioned in articles about D.L. Hughley, Wanda Sykes, and Wayne Brady. Google books lists two mentions that appear to reference this particular film. I also found an confirmation for the Annie. Jclemens (talk) 03:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you would be so good, then, as to edit the Article and include those voluminous citations in a way that supports WP:MOVIE. As when I called up your apparent NYT reference [1], I discovered a cover blurb lifted from the "All Movies Guide," not a NYT movie review. AMG, AFAIK, is not a reliable source which confers Notability. Indeed, it appears to me to be a very trivial reference, even if it is on the New York Times website. And I further wonder how many of the other voluminous references you found are of similar quality. Futher, "Nominations," aren't major awards per WP:MOVIE. Or maybe you'd like to detail some of the other references yourself in the article, lest someone think this is a perfect example of a Google test. LaughingVulcan 00:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that was the nominators responsibility per WP:ATD and WP:BEFORE. Often I do it despite it being someone else's responsibility, but in this case, I choose to allow someone else the privilege. The evidence will remain here, linked from the talk page, as long as the article is kept--which it appears to be WP:SNOWing towards. Jclemens (talk) 01:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have to do anything. I did search for sources. I don't need to post sources, that I didn't find, on an article that I don't care about. Schuym1 (talk) 01:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While no one "has to" do anything--this is still a volunteer project--the community's expectations of AfD nominators are listed at WP:BEFORE. I posted my specific google search string so that others can review my findings firsthand, but also so that everyone who comes across this AfD can see how to effectively construct a search string so that relevant web references will rise to the top whenever needed in the future. We're all learning as we go here. Jclemens (talk) 03:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 03:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep per sources found by Jclemens. Good job! Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, of course. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 04:10, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Award nominations and major stars establish notability. Alansohn (talk) 04:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Alansohn and others. Major stars, major studio, reviews in major newspapers. Stub needs expanding, of course, to include this info. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Produced by a notable studio, with reviews in major publications. 23skidoo (talk) 14:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Major studio release, several major stars in the cast, and these days just being a direct-to-video isn't the official seal of crappiness that it used to be, especially for kids' films. A lot of movies released that way do comparibly well or better than many theatrical releases. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - in addition to the film there is a book and a play of the same title, all of which have been covered by reliable sources. PhilKnight (talk) 23:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Xymmax and Jclemens' work. Banjeboi 18:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Strong references. Axl (talk) 20:04, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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