Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Admiral's Caravan

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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ Geschichte (talk) 18:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Admiral's Caravan[edit]

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I don't believe this book is notable. I found one very small review of the book, from 1892 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/44037323) and one minor mention of the book as one Carryl wrote in Guide to Literary Masters and their works from 2007. I was not able to find any really notable coverage. Jaguarnik (talk) 07:26, 4 February 2024 (UTC) Withdrawn by nominator: reviews were identified by Cunard. Jaguarnik (talk) 17:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and New York. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 07:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria says:
A book is presumed notable if it verifiably meets, through reliable sources, at least one of the following criteria:
1. The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This can include published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.
Sources
1. "The Admiral's Caravan". Boston Commonwealth. Vol. 32, no. 14. 1882-11-12. p. 7. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: ""The Admiral's Caravan," by Charles E. Carryl, with illustrations by Reginald B. Birch (New York: The Century Co.), is a delightful book for children or for anyone, for that matter, who has not lost the love for genuine fancifulness; for the vivid, child-like imaginativeness that seems sensible enough to the wise, while the unwise see in it nothing but foolishness. Mr. Carryl's 'Dorothy' learns no scientific knowledge, points no moral, sugar-coated or otherwise, does nothing, in fact, but to go to sleep on Christmas Eve and forthwith make au excursion in dream-land that is charming in its incidents and gay in its fun, while at the same time its strangest transformation-scenes are true to the peculiar logic of dreams. Readers of 'St. Nicholas' are already familiar with Dorothy's adventures, made yet more vivid by Mr. Birch's capital illustrations. A child like child is sufficiently rare in literature to be precious: Dorothy is such a child; and Alice, with all her 'looking-glass' experience, would surely claim her as her dearest friend. The gray cover with its bright figures is in excellent keeping with the story."
2. Street, Douglas (1985). "Charles E. Carryl". In Estes, Glenn E. (ed.). Dictionary of Literary Biography. Vol. 42: American Writers for Children Before 1900. Detroit: Gale. p. 124. ISBN 0-8103-1720-6. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The book notes: "In The Admiral's Caravan nonsense takes precedence over action. There are instances in this story in which nonsense and wordplay seem to serve the author's whim, having little impact on the plot itself. Taken singly these passages afford the reader moments of amusement within the novel. Dorothy, for instance, comes across "a charming little cottage with vines trained about the latticed windows, and with a sign over the door, reading, The Outside Inn." As she pushes open the cottage door to investigate, she finds "there was no inside to the house, and she came out into the field again on the other side of the door." This wall was papered and curtained nicely "but there was a notice pasted up beside the door, reading—The Inn-side out as if the rest of the house had gone out for a walk, and might be expected back at any time." It is precisely because of incongruities such as these that Carryl's stories were enjoyed. The absurdity of The Admiral's Caravan gave readers a distinctive entertainment, one eclipsed only by Carryl's earlier work. Judging from responses of readers printed in St. Nicholas magazine after the novel's serialization, nineteenth-century America had rarely experienced such inventiveness from a native-born novelist.""
3. "Books Reviews: The Admiral's Caravan". The Golden Rule. Vol. 7, no. 4. 1892-10-27. p. 75. ProQuest 88722883.
  The review notes: "The Admiral's Caravan. Charles E. Carryl is our American peer of the author of "Alice in Wonderland." His "Davy and the Goblin" proved it, and this new and most charming book confirms it. There are the same delightful puns and sharp sayings, the same fantastic personages and odd antics, even the same occasional whiffs of droll poetry. The admiral's caravan, together with Dorothy, go down the Ferry to Nowhere, "where the nobodies live on their nothing a day," enter the tree-top country, see the marvels of Bob Scarlet's garden and the toy-shop, and after a few adventures with the sizing tower, Humphrey, the camel, and other queer creatures and things, Dorothy and the caravan get safely home again. The child or the grown-up person that cannot enjoy this book has something wofully wrong with him. [New York: The Century Company. Pp. 140. $1.50.]"
4. "The Admiral's Caravan". Publishers Weekly. No. 1081. 1892-10-15. p. 623. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: "The scene of the story is laid in Dreamland, the principal characters being a little girl and a wooden admiral and his companions. Dorothy witnesses a great many queer scenes and meets many odd characters in Dreamland, her adventures being something like those of Davy in "Davy and the goblin," by the same author."
5. Benét, William Rose (1934-02-03). "The Phoenix Nest". The Saturday Review of Literature. p. 457. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The article notes: "I have often pondered the fact that England had only one Lewis Carroll, while we had two grand nonsense men who spelt their name with a "y," (Samivel.) First, Charles E.—author of that immortal story, 'The Admiral's Caravan," and that immortal ballad in it, "The Plaint of the Camel"; ... No grander tale for intelligent children was ever written than "The Admiral's Caravan." When it began to appear in St. Nicholas, with the marvelous Birch illustrations, I know two children at least, in the old days, who were ecstatically happy."
6. "A Quaint Child's Book". Book News. No. 123. November 1882. p. 81. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: "The Century Company have made up a tempting book of material which first appeared in the pages of St. Nicholas. "The Admiral's Caravan" is a book for boys and girls. The scene of the story is laid in Dreamland, the principle characters being a little girl Dorothy, and a wooden admiral from the Blue Admiral Inn, and his companions, the Highlander, and Sir Walter Rosettes. There are animals and birds that talk, and animated dolls, and a camel that is fed on glue, and laments its hard fate in verse. Philadelphia Press."
7. "More Books for the Young". The Dial. Vol. 13, no. 156. 1892-12-18. p. 397. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: "The Admiral's Caravan" (Century Co.) is a charming story for younger children by Mr. Charles E. Carryl. It is modelled upon "Alice in Wonderland," but it is clever and contains some amusing verses. The illustrations by Birch are capital."
8. "Books of the Season". Current Literature. Vol. 11, no. 4. December 1892. p. 388. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: "For youngsters who care to be bewildered by innocent foolery, the spectacle of incredible beings occupying impossible situations, jocular attitudes and far-fetched explanations somewhat after the manner introduced to the world by a certain adventuress Alice is provided The Admiral's Caravan by Charles E. Carryl, with illustrations by Reginald B. Birch (Century Co.). The book is full of clever illustrations and its verses are as bright as its prose."
9. "Children's Books". The Christian Union. Vol. 46, no. 23. 1892-12-03. p. 1068. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: "The Admiral's Caravan, by Charles E. Carryl, published by the same company, suggests" Alice in Wonderland," and yet has a charm of its own. The children of to-day need these purely imaginative books to counteract the effect of school pressure, and the dilutions of history, science, and literature that are the mental" infants' foods" of the present day. ($1.50.)"
10. "The Admiral's Caravan". The Critic. Vol. 18, no. 562. 1892-11-26. p. 296. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: "The Admiral who personally conducts The Admiral's Caravan in Mr. Lewis Carroll's new goblin story was an admiral of wood on a pedestal in front of the Blue Admiral Inn. He had for neighbors a red-whiskered Highlander, who mounted guard before an instrument shop, and a Sir Walter Rosettes, who stood holding a bunch of tobacco leaves outside Mrs. Peevy's tobacco-shop, or rather Smoker's Emporium. But the Admiral was alive, as he proved to Miss Dorothy by calling out 'Cracks in my legs!' as he caught a glimpse of them through his spy-glass. After this, it is hardly to be wondered at overmuch when the Admiral descends from his pedestal, and, with Dorothy, takes the 'Ferry for Nowhere.' The jolly cruise of the good ship 'Sideboard' through an enchanted forest; their stay at the Outside Inn, which, when you get inside, you find is inside out; and the curious botanical lore gleaned in Bob Scarlet's garden, the reader must learn of from Mr. Carroll himself. He will never regret the time so spent if he lives to be as old as the Admiral himself. ($1.50. The Century Co.)"
11. "Illustrated Holiday Books for Children". Review of Reviews. Vol. 6, no. 35. December 1892. p. 632. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: ""The Admiral's Caravan" is reprinted from St. Nicholas with Mr. Birch's numerous irresistible illustrations as well. The admiral and part of the caravan appear in gold and colors on the cover, and will greet the eyes of a good many girls and boys at Christmas time—for Dorothy, the little heroine, fell asleep on Christmas day, and saw a great many wonderful and charming things on that dreamland trip. Mr. Carryl here kindly gives us a report of them, which the little folks by all means ought to hear."
12. "The Admiral's Caravan". Art Amateur. Vol. 28, no. 1. December 1892. p. 35. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: "The Admiral's Caravan is a story the scene of which is laid in Dreamland. A little girl, Dorothy, a camel, a robin, a stork, a wooden admiral and a Highlander have a good deal to do and say during the progress of the story, and some of them make their observations in verse. Charles E. Carryl, the author, has imitated more closely the style of "Alice in Wonderland" than is commendable, but that will not be obvious to children, who will delight in the story and in Reginald Birch's spirited illustrations. The verse seems to us the best thing in the book. The song of the mouse is a piece of genuine poetry, and the lament of the camel is a bit of genuine humor. The volume is bound in gray cloth, with a cover in gold and colors. (The Century Co., $1.50.)"
13. "The Admiral's Caravan". The New York Times. Vol. 42, no. 12964. 1893-03-13. p. 3. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The article notes: "The Admiral's Caravan, by Charles E. Carryl, which was originally published in St. Nicholas and afterward in book form by the Century Company, has been translated into Italian and issued at Milan by Birch in the Giornale dei Fanciulli, with all the illustrations."
14. "The Admiral's Caravan". The Independent. Vol. 44, no. 2292. 1892-11-03. p. 1564. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Internet Archive.
  The review notes: "The Admiral's Caravan. By Charles E. Carryl, author of "Davy and the Goblin," with Illustrations by Reginald B. Birch. (The Century Co., New York. $1.50.) This is another Dreamland fancy, from the author of "Alice in Wonderland," and "Behind the Looking Glass." Tho not equal to those immortal fictions, it is quite original in the conception of the "Admiral," and the wit and humor occasionally recall to the reader a strain the author has sung before. It has, however, a distinct tone and character of its own, and is very entertaining. The story is an amusing and extraordinary fiction reprinted from the St. Nicholas and illustrated with Birch's graceful and spirited inventions."
15. "The Admiral's Caravan". Boston Evening Transcript. 1892-10-28. Archived from the original on 2024-02-04. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Newspapers.com.
  The review notes: "The Admiral's Caravan. by Charles E. Carry, author of "Davy and the Goblin," is a book for little girls and boys. The scene of the story is laid in Dreamland, the principal characters being a little girl and a wooden admiral and his companions. There is also a camel who is fed on glue and laments his hard fate in verse. The story is reprinted from St. Nicholas, with all of Birch's charming illustrations, making a volume of 140 pages, bound in gray cloth, with the admiral and part of the caravan stamped in gold and colors on the cover. Published by the Century Company. New York."
16. "The Admiral's Caravan". Journal of Education. 36 (18 #893): 303. 1892-11-10. JSTOR 44037323.
  The review notes: "The Admiral's Caravan, a charming holiday book for smallest boys and girls, by Charles E Carryal, is reprinted from St. Nicholas. The scene is laid in Dreamland, and the adventures of pretty Dorothy, the wooden Admiral, and the camel who was fed on glue are such as will greatly interest the little ones. The volume is daintily illustrated by Birch, and has an illuminated cover. New York: The Century Co. Price, $1 50."
17. "Brief Mention: The Admiral's Caravan". Chicago Tribune. 1892-10-22. Archived from the original on 2024-02-04. Retrieved 2024-02-04 – via Newspapers.com.
  The review notes: ""The Admiral's Caravan," by Charles E. Carryl, originally appeared in St. Nicholas. In reviewing "Davy and the Goblin" by the same author we spoke of Mr. Carryl's indebtedness to Lewis Carroll, and in "The Admiral's Caravan" the resemblance to the Alice books is even more marked. It is easy to recognize the source of the strange transformations and changes of size, the quips and quibbles, the preposterous poetical rhapsodies that form the stock in trade of Mr. Carryl. But whatever may be thought of its originality, the book is exceedingly funny. The characters go sailing on a paragondola, dance the quadrupedrille, discipline an insubordinate camel who has the bad taste to grumble in rhyme, and incur a series of perils from the "ungovernerubble fury" of a revengful robin, Bob Scarlet by name. Mr. Birch's pictures are as clever as usual, but in some of them little Dorothy's mouth is too much like the ace of clubs. (New York: The Century company. $1.50.)"
18. Waldman, Scott (2012-11-21). "'Wicked' author donates papers to UAlbany". Times Union. Archived from the original on 2024-01-12. Retrieved 2024-02-04.
  The article notes: "The school already has an extensive collection of children's literature, some 15,000 titles that run from 1850 to 1960. Among the items displayed at a ceremony in the school's Science Library was Charles Carryl's 1891 book "The Admiral's Caravan," about a young girl named Dorothy who takes a journey with three wooden soldiers, which was published almost a decade before Frank Baum's "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz.""
19. "Holiday Juveniles". San Francisco Chronicle. 1892-10-30. p. 9. ProQuest 572690136.
  The article notes: "A pretty holiday book for children is "The Admiral's Caravan," by Charles E. Carryl, with illustrations by Reginald B. Burch. The story is full of quaint concerts interspersed with the most delightful songs, and Burch has added to the work of the author many charming sketches of little Dorothy and the queer people that she met in her adventures. The book has an attractive cover with a funny design in colors. [New York: The Century Company. For sale by A. M. Robertson, 126 Post street; price $1 50.]"
20. Reynolds, Neil (2007-12-28). "Acceptable nonsense from a broker". The Globe and Mail. Archived from the original on 2024-02-04. Retrieved 2024-02-04.
  The article notes: "As a writer of absurd and whimsical verse, Charles Edward Carryl fits somewhere between Lewis Carroll and Cole Porter - as these lines from his 1890s The Admiral's Caravan, a Christmas Eve adventure with a young girl named Dorothy and an assembly of dim-witted animals, demonstrates: ... He dedicated The Admiral's Caravan to his daughter Constance, saluting her as his "sweet chatterbox": ... These works are a treasury of silly and absurdist literary concoctions. In The Admiral's Caravan, heroine Dorothy picks up a lawyer's lost document labelled "Memorumdums.""
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow The Admiral's Caravan to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 11:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per reviews identified by Cunard. Toughpigs (talk) 11:54, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per reviews identified by Cunard. -- Evertype·✆ 16:08, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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