Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Teruaki Georges Sumioka
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The result was delete. Secret account 16:56, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Teruaki Georges Sumioka[edit]
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Sumioka "is a philosopher, film theorist (Film Grammar and Media Business), and creator", we're told. "In consequence of Wittgenstein's Language game and Speech act of Ordinary language philosophy, he studied Ontology of Act and Agent of Act from the aspect of Logic against the Epistemology of modern Subjectivism begun by Descartes." Et cetera. Putting aside linguistic oddities in the phrasing, his philosophical endeavor may or may not be impressive -- but none of it is sourced. Or on film: "After Baumgarten, he thinks that beauty is the sensitivitical argument on truth. To explain this, he turned his attention to Diagogue in film instead of Dialogue and found Diactic instead of Plato's Dialectic. This Diagogue exists not only between the persons in a film but also between the filmmaker and the audience, so that the T Grand Structure of film consist of both Diagogues." When I turn my attention to film I tend to see formulaic plots, gruesome dialogue and, if the film is Japanese, formulaic/hammy acting; but I don't claim significance for my insights. If significance is claimed for Sumioka's insights, I want to see some signs of a secondary literature about them. Neither Google Scholar nor Google Books provides such signs. True, I only searched for the man at those two via the roman alphabet; when I look in Japanese, I see stuff by him, retailers' adverts for his books, and bloggery; I see nothing substantive.
Nihonjoe prodded the article but Roundthetwist (the latest in a series of SPAs to have shown interest in this article) added a source for one claim in it; I inferred a rejection of the notion that the subject wasn't notable and therefore removed the prod notice.
We have reliable sources to back up the claims that Sumioka has worked, or is working, here and there. These claims are by themselves not of interest. What does he do when he works? No reliable, independent source yet adduced says anything about his insights, let alone that they have had much effect on anyone other than Sumioka himself. So what might be notable is not referenced. -- Hoary (talk) 13:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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However, only as academic I found them at once in google.
- https://qir.kyushu-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2324/10324/7/05_chapter2.pdf
- https://qir.kyushu-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2324/10324/1/11_appendix1.pdf
- http://www2.meijo.ac.jp/kato/2008/ok2008_films.htm
- http://www.kisc.meiji.ac.jp/~takamasa/subsemi/index.files/odoru2.pdf
- http://vision.kuee.kyoto-u.ac.jp/japanese/happyou/pdf/Kuroda_2009_P_241.pdf
- http://www.meiji.ac.jp/isc/syllabus/bodies/yoro-g.html
- http://www4.kokugakuin.ac.jp/syllabus2009.nsf/1dffb8e30522fa7e49256e5d0007b791/ce3ba680964a9bf14925757d0012c4c9?OpenDocument
--Roundthetwist (talk) 14:06, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Good, and I see that you have already started to add more sources to the article. I wonder, though, if there are independent sources for (e.g. discussions or at least mentions by other scholars of) his theoretical insights. -- Hoary (talk) 14:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete per nominator. Non-notable. I couldn't find any reliable source. Oda Mari (talk) 04:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete as a basic propaganda piece, original research, advertisement, and rife with information from primary sources only. This also appears to be a spam campaign across multiple Wikipedia projects. I can find nothing which verifies notability per WP:BIO. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:03, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Can someone enlighten us as to the contents of the sources? I don't speak or read Japanese. - Mgm|(talk) 09:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Here's the list above:
- https://qir.kyushu-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2324/10324/7/05_chapter2.pdf
- Chapter 2 of an identified book. It cites "Sumioka 2005" at one point.
- https://qir.kyushu-u.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2324/10324/1/11_appendix1.pdf
- Bibliography of this same book, identifying "Sumioka 2005".
- http://www2.meijo.ac.jp/kato/2008/ok2008_films.htm
- Course description by another teacher, in which he lists this book by Sumioka as one to which he'll refer.
- http://www.kisc.meiji.ac.jp/~takamasa/subsemi/index.files/odoru2.pdf
- What appears to be a PDF derivative of a Powerpoint or similar presentation. At the end, this lists this book by Sumioka among its sources.
- http://vision.kuee.kyoto-u.ac.jp/japanese/happyou/pdf/Kuroda_2009_P_241.pdf
- Sumioka is cited as the authority for the assertion that 映画と同じようにそれを見ている者に作り手が伝えたいことを伝えるということで共通しているお笑いについて考える.お笑いにおいては「フリ」と「オチ」が存在する.(I regret to say that the meaning of this statement eludes me.)
- http://www.meiji.ac.jp/isc/syllabus/bodies/yoro-g.html
- Somebody's course description. A different book by Sumioka is one of the nine sources he says he'll refer to in his twelfth lecture.
- http://www4.kokugakuin.ac.jp/syllabus2009.nsf/1dffb8e30522fa7e49256e5d0007b791/ce3ba680964a9bf14925757d0012c4c9?OpenDocument
- Another course description. This second book by Sumioka is listed as one of the 18 he'll refer to.
-- Hoary (talk) 10:37, 8 December 2009 (UTC) revised 14:26, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- What you cannot see is the very story on "Diagogue" and the "T Grand Structure" that you have deleted.--Roundthetwist (talk) 23:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I do not know what you are talking about. What "story on 'Diagogue' and the 'T Grand Structure'" have I, or has anyone, deleted? Or do you mean the Wikipedia articles on "Diactic", "Spiral Up Structure", "Action line" and "Multicoverage" that were deleted as a result of this "AfD"? (English-language Wikipedia has never had an article on "T Grand Structure", although thanks to Janine Garnier the notion and Sumioka do get a mention within the convoluted article Implied author.) -- Hoary (talk) 01:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Seems to be little of substance. Xxanthippe (talk) 10:04, 11 December 2009 (UTC).[reply]
- Delete. Couldn't find any evidence of notability. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:19, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- As well as an article without source, any opinion without evidence is nothing in Wikipedia. Now, reliable sources are fulfiled. Then, without prejudice, check WP:PROF and WP:AUTHOR. Enough, so we have to KEEP IT by the guideline. That is all.--Gunpowderrice (talk) 15:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Welcome, new editor. My opinion is that no evidence has been adduced for any claim made in the article for more than humdrum notability. This claim of mine itself has no evidence, but of its nature it need not and indeed cannot have evidence; on the other hand, it could easily be refuted if evidence existed. Now, which of the nine criteria of WP:PROF does Sumioka meet? (Please don't say that as a 教授 he has met criterion 6: a typical Japanese university has hundreds of 教授.) And which of the five criteria of WP:AUTHOR does he meet? -- Hoary (talk) 08:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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