Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tarek Hijazi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 12:11, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tarek Hijazi[edit]

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Editor of About Her - yet to see if this online magazine even meets WP's notability criteria on magazine or web. This is another debate but BLP surely fails basic GNG. Search doesn't produce any substantial information about the person so Can't see any significance. Some of the cited sources are not even reliable enough, some are non-independent of the subject - abouther.com. On a related note, @WikiDan61: PROD this BLP however the creator of the page removed the tag so let's discuss it here. Saqib (talk) 14:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No indication that this person has been the subject of significant coverage. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 14:54, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I am new to Wikipedia, and I am not certain if I am eligible to vote on this -- especially since I am the author of the proposed page -- so please bear with me. To answer your query about the website, it is legitimate, and recently won the WAN-IFRA award for best new startup ^[1]. I apologize to have removed the 'proposed delete' tag earlier, I was encouraged to do so by Wikipedia, so I though it would be okay to remove and explain. I did not mean to offend. More importantly, the person shares the same name with a model who is also known, so there is some confusion on Google. I thought this would be a way to clarify between the two. I also intend to create a page for the model with references. The journalist is a contributor to Askmen.com, one of the biggest entertainment websites in the world, and his interviews and features have been published on Conde Nast Traveler, GQ, Harper's Bazaar and other top magazines. I am new and willing to learn and become a better Wiki contributor, so please help me understand how to make this, and other future articles better. Thank you. JenniferCraigCarter (talk) 16:17, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://events.wan-ifra.org/events/middle-eastern-digital-media-awards/content/1583

- @JenniferCraigCarter: Yes, you are allowed to comment here as the author of the page; in fact, you are encouraged to do so to bring facts to bear that might not be obvious to other editors here. And yes, you were well within Wikipedia policy to remove the Proposed Deletion tag; that's all part of the deletion process. All that being said, I don't think you've done enough to convince us that this person merits inclusion at Wikipedia. The confusion of names with another celebrity is unfortunate, but it is up to you as the page's author to provide the sources needed to verify this person's notability. The AFD process runs for seven days at a minimum, so you'll have some time to gather sources if you can. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 16:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @WikiDan61: Thank you, I will do my best to get more information available. Should I share them here once I do, or should I just make the updates to the Journalist's page directly? Please let me know. Thank you! JenniferCraigCarter (talk) 16:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - @JenniferCraigCarter: If you find more sources, add them to the article, and then mention the updates here so that the people watching this discussion can re-evaluate. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 22:53, 20 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 05:20, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 05:20, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. I couldn't find evidence of notability separate from the magazine, which I believe is notable. Ross-c (talk) 06:13, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ross-c: You mean merge and delete or merge and redirect. I'm happy with merge and delete but not with merge and redirection because having redirection on non-notable figures does not make sense to me. Please clarify your position. --Saqib (talk) 07:09, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: I would prefer merge and redirect. My reason is that it's better if people searching for Tarek Hijazi are redirected to the magazine page, rather than nowhere at all. Ross-c (talk) 18:06, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ross-c: But it always hold the risk of page getting re-created. And Guess what the magazine's notablity can be easily questioned. I don't see it passing Wikipedia:Notability_(media)#Newspapers,_magazines_and_journals. --Saqib (talk) 18:11, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: The notability of the magazine is a separate issue. I would think that a redirect would not significantly increase the probability of the article being recreated. Even if it did, I still think that a redirect is the better option.Ross-c (talk) 18:27, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ross-c: I hope you don't mind this AfD : Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/About Her, but it's very important to get rid of non-notable stuff. Feel free to comment as you like. --Saqib (talk) 18:52, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: I have just responded to the 'About Her' AfD on the given page. Please refer to it for reevaluation. On another note, further to Tarek's biography, I'll have to argue about the notability of Askmen.com. It is among the the top 10,000 websites globally. That's a major feat. Tarek contributes to the site as a celebrity interviewer and his works were then syndicated to multiple print publishers around the world, and in multiple languages, via The Interview People. You can tell by the looks of his personal social media accounts here, and here, that he tends to keep a low-profile. But as someone who works with celebrities, and is constantly being quoted, I think it is justified to consider him of interest to the public. I have added more references to his Wikipedia page for reevaluation. Please have a look.

Note Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Butch.labajo. --Saqib (talk) 12:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:04, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I can't find any coverage of this subject. And COI promotion should not be encouraged. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:19, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not certain if it is acceptable to cast a second vote after an article has been relisted for discussion, so please ignore if that is the case. Otherwise, as author, I think that, aside from the sufficient sources already referenced on the actual article (most of which are from giant publishers), Wikipedia also encourages authors to argue based on common sense. The notion that Tarek engages celebrities and other people of public interest, makes him a subject of interest to the public, and therefore, this page serves to address that interest. JenniferCraigCarter (talk) 16:14, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't !vote twice. --Saqib (talk) 16:56, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Saqib: Sorry. Vote removed.

Note More updates made to the page (with references) about his work on Instagram. JenniferCraigCarter (talk) 16:15, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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