Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunday Service Coachella performance

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival. Clear consensus that we shouldn't have a standalone article. The merge target can be further discussed on the talk page if desired. T. Canens (talk) 01:35, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sunday Service Coachella performance[edit]

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WP:CRYSTAL - it is presumptuous to assume that a single performance by one artist at a music festival is notable enough to warrant its own article when the performance has not even occurred yet. Furthermore, it is not even known yet what exactly this performance will comprise, since technically it is not a standard billed performance but rather supposedly a religious service for Easter. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talkcontributions) 21:25, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2019 April 20. —cyberbot ITalk to my owner:Online 21:45, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as article creator. This performance has already received a lot press attention prior to it taking place. Come back in a week once the event happens and decide wether it merits deletion. Kim Kardashian has also said it's not a religious event. Nice4What (talk) 21:53, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I would look over WP:NOTNEWS - just because something has received news coverage does not mean it has been imbued with lasting notability, especially if the coverage is mostly speculation/wonder at what the event will actually be. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talkcontributions) 21:58, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This performance is being live-streamed and numerous sources have covered it, plus West is a highly popular artist so there is obvious notability. --Kyle Peake (talk) 09:31, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Nothing you have said gives this performance any notability. Most of the festival was livestreamed - are you telling me that any random set from the festival that was included in the YouTube livestream is inherently notable enough to deserve a Wikipedia article? I think that would be ridiculous. What about other random performances from across the entire weekend that were covered by media outlets - should they have their own articles? What about Kanye West's random performamce at a venue in NYC on a tour? Does that deserve an article simply because he's a notable person? Your threshold for notability is definitely in contrast with Wikipedia's. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talkcontributions) 16:25, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Edit West debuted a new song live during the performance and even confirmed it's title. The performance is definitely notable now. --Kyle Peake (talk) 19:02, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • Debuting a song does not make a performance notable. If it did, Wikipedia would be littered with stub articles about millions of individual concerts. Please read Wikipedia:Notability and make yourself familiar with the guidelines for notability, because it doesn't sound like you know how to distinguish between newsworthy and notable. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talkcontributions) 19:06, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This performance is already covered in the main article for Yandhi. Having a live-stream and sources aren't enough here to qualify for a separate article; by this logic, nearly every Coachella performance this year should have a Wiki page (it's also worth noting that there are no pages for any individual Coachella festivals). See also Y2Kcrazyjoker4's comments on notability. SiliconRed (talk) 20:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete/merge Preposterous to think that such a single routine performance or the concept of releasing a new song is notable. West has held countless concerts, and numerous major performers are at music festivals, all of which receive routine coverage, but they are not individually notable. Can be mentioned in the album article. Reywas92Talk 04:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Yandhi#Third recording: Sunday Service, where the subject is already adequately sourced and covered. Bakazaka (talk) 18:56, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Need a bit more of analysis on whether the news coverage might satisfy GNG and other applicable criteria
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:47, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This performance is not notable enough for it’s own article. The best thing to do would be mere mention in Kanye West’s career section. Trillfendi (talk) 18:01, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Should probably be merged or redirected to a page on 2019 Coachella. ScienceAdvisor (talk) 21:14, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect to Coachella. There is no indication that this set was so influential as to pass GNG. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:54, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Scott Burley (talk) 02:47, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect to Coachella per WP:CRYSTALBALL. This event will take place than it is currently taking place and as such we should not be having an article about a subject that hasn't influential enough yet to meet WP:N. Raymond3023 (talk) 12:24, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In all fairness, the performance has occurred since I opened this deletion request, but it seems clear that it has not passed any notability threshold in the time since. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talkcontributions) 15:40, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.