Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Summit School (Queens, New York) (2nd nomination)

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The result was Keep. Last AfD closed merely 12 days ago. If you disagreed with that decision, WP:DRV is the venue. Re-nominating is pointy and disruptive. Smashville^talk 19:11, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Summit School (Queens, New York)[edit]

I re-nominated for deletion because I felt the previous AfD was judged based on the number of “keep”. It did not express the views of people who said “delete”. Once again, schools are notable only if secondary sources are available. I did research on google but I found no secondary sources. The only one I found was the school's website which is a primary source. First see WP:CRYSTAL which rejects claims that it will be important in the future as a reason to keep the article. Second, are there any schools which are not "notable in the school community?????" My point is not all schools in the school community meet the Wikipedia's notability guidelines to have an article. Hagadol (talk) 16:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't modify your nomination without making it clear an edit has been made. It confuses conversation. Diff of change is here.[1]--Cube lurker (talk) 17:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here also[2]. If you want to reply to someone elses comment you can do so indented beneath their comment.--Cube lurker (talk) 17:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep Last AfD was closed as Keep on July 15, 2009. -SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 16:08, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. -- -SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 16:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per SpacemanSpiff. Too soon for a re-nomination.--Cube lurker (talk) 16:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I added a SPA tag to the nomination which was removed by the nominator - here. -SpacemanSpiff^{Calvin‡Hobbes} 17:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per common deletion outcomes (high schools are usually kept). If the argument by the SPA nominator is that no third-party sources are given, here's one I found in about 3 minutes. tedder (talk) 17:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment That is like saying that just because a school is listed on RateMyTeachers, then it is notable. It is not an appropriate secondary source to prove that it is notable. Something that was mentioned in The New York Times would be notable. Hagadol (talk) 18:46, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A government source is not reliable? Huh. That's an interesting opinion. tedder (talk) 18:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no independent coverage about this school. Wikipedia's notability guidelines want significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic. Hagadol (talk) 19:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Keep Per too soon for new AfD and common deletion outcomes that secondary schools are usually kept. Curtis (talk) 17:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.