Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sudden Death Seven-ball

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:50, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sudden Death Seven-ball[edit]

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Unsourced since May of 2007 with no attempts to substantially improve the article. WP:BEFORE turned up some passing mentions and a forum thread, with most mentions being in the context of a television schedule, not WP:SIGCOV. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 17:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Sports. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 17:26, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Some mentions on a SportsBall website, that's all. Lack of any substantial sourcing in RS. Oaktree b (talk) 17:48, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I think the issue here is going to be the timing. It's a 2000-2006 events. Despite what the article says, it did run for six years, which is a reasonable run, and clearly for it to be organised/broadcast by ESPN, it's a big enough event. here's AZBilliards covering the event for instance. However, with it being early 2000s, a lot of the sources will be offline or dead by now from my experience of pool sources. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:00, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for finding that! It looks like they covered it one other time but that article reads a bit primary to me given the ad at the top and bottom. I will do some additional digging later this evening and see if anything else comes up. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 22:04, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, the other one is just a reformatted press release, but this one was written by AZBilliards themselves, so would be a suitable measuring stick. It's only one source though, but I would expect contemporary sources from this time period to cover this, which would likely be mostly offline. Maybe newspaper.com is a good place to check. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 06:03, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pool magazines like Billiards Digest and Inside Pool probably also covered it, but I don't have back-issue collections of them any longer. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:14, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: My additional research tonight did not turn up much else. I found a decent number of passing mentions in the form of awards lists/sports database entries and two new articles. Unfortunately,Cuesight seems to be an online store and PoolRoom seems to mostly be unedited press releases. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 00:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Found several trivial mentions of the subject in news articles/books or being part of some programming table. The only significant coverage that I came across is in this forum, which does not seem very reliable. For now it seems to lack enough appropriate coverage to pass WP:GNG. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 20:16, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This and some previouso deletions or deletion discussions of borderline-notable media related to cue sports makes me think we need a List of cue sports media sort of article, to listify such subjects, as they clearly pass WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE even if WP:Notability is a bar they're finding it hard to hurdle due to their niche-audience nature not generating coverage that is easy to find. If this one is deleted, please WP:REFUND it to User:SMcCandlish/Incubator/Sudden Death Seven-ball. There are some other previously deleted pool/billiards/snooker TV show and video game articles that I should probably have dug up out of page histories, as the old stubs on them would make reasonable list entries. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:18, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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