Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stan VanderWerf

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stan VanderWerf[edit]

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Non-notable politician. VanderWerf serves as a County Commissioner in El Paso County, Colorado. There is no indication that he has achieved any particularly noteworthy accomplishments in this role. The promotional tone of the article could be addressed, but there's nothing really to replace it with. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:06, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:06, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 21:06, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There is some press coverage, but it doesn't appear to be significant. - Scarpy (talk) 21:48, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Hyper local coverage of a county commissioner does not meet GNG or NPOL. --Kbabej (talk) 00:28, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, PR, edited heavily by single purpose account --Devokewater @ 20:09, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the creator of this article PeytonRose wants to improve it, they should be given some time to complete this, the Teahouse will assist them, however the SPA is stiil busy editing. Regards --Devokewater @ 19:01, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Are you !voting to draftify or leave this article in mainspace? --Kbabej (talk) 19:31, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Devokewater, PeytonRose is not an SPA. They are trying to do good and make a good article, not vandalize or spam or anything like that. ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 17:43, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, now I realize that I was mistaken. ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 03:57, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If the subject were notable, but the article merely in need of improvement, I would have tagged it for improvement, not deletion. The quality of the article is not the issue here; the scarcity of useful sources is. This local politician simply has not been the subject of enough in-depth coverage in reliable sources for us to generate any significant content about him. (In my opinion, as nominator, of course.) WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 20:19, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment just cleaned up the article, leaving only sourced information (except his education), a lot of spin + PR has been deleted. Regards--Devokewater @ 13:16, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. County commissioner is not a role that confers an automatic presumption of notability per WP:NPOL — it is a level of office where a person gets a Wikipedia article only if he can show a strong claim to being much more nationally significant than the norm for that level of office. But there's no indication of that here, and the article is written and formatted much more like a résumé than a proper encyclopedia article anyway. Bearcat (talk) 14:33, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Local news coverage of a local politician that doesn't meet WP:NPOL is not sufficient for notability. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:35, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Has anyone mentioned that this could have been speedy deleted at its inception as spam and a copyright violation of the campaign page [1]? While those rationales no longer apply, multiple revisions can be rev/deleted for the latter. Does the article's creator have an edit history for this sort of copied spam? 73.186.215.222 (talk) 01:56, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment the article's creator is bona fide, however I've had differences with a SPA. Devokewater @ 10:24, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm unconvinced. As a reminder, here's the article as created: [2]. Might be a paid contributor. 73.186.215.222 (talk) 15:31, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Stan is now a mountain climber. Devokewater @ 15:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, PR, edited heavily by single purpose account --Devokewater @ 15:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've requested a FOIA with the National Personnel Records Center, Military Personnel Records on Mr. VanderWerf's military record to provide some clarity of his military records. Kodiis (talk) 16:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel records from a person's own employer aren't notability-building sources. Bearcat (talk) 12:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Hi, everyone! I introduced Mr. VanderWerf's page in an attempt to recognize Combat Veterans who went on to contribute to society in a positive way. I heard about Mr. VanderWerf's story and was inspired to start with him since his accomplishments seemed to be notable enough to merit a Wikipedia page. I come from a military family and know how uplifting it is for Veterans when they are recognized.

I thought this would be a great way to contribute to honoring these heroes. I started with info that appeared biographical, though it was riddled with PR. I tried to remove any PR verbiage and many of the wiki editors who are contributing here have definitely helped to accomplish that. Thank you, guys! I tried to use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cotton as an example to structure the creation of a proper biography.

It looks like another editor has requested an FOI to help with citations on Military accomplishments. My goal is to honor Veterans who have served the United States and then contributed to society and I hope that we consider Mr. VanderWerf (and other Veterans like him who have accomplished notable acts of valor and service) worthy enough to share with the World. I hope that we consider keeping this page. Thank you, everyone for your contributions! PeytonRose (talk) 18:04, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The subject is notable. I would urge the community to keep this page while the FOI for Medals of Honor in Combat Duty are being cited. The combination of the subject's acts of valor and civil accomplishments are notable. Thank you, all for your contributions! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeytonRose (talk • contribs) 20:22, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment VanderWerf's service record may be valorous, but that is not, in itself, notable. The medals he has received do not rise to the level that would automatically connote notability. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 03:46, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Another local/regional politician who fails WP:GNG. KidAd (💬💬) 07:38, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete While I appreciate what they were trying to do, it fails wp:GNG. ◊PRAHLAD^balaji (M•T•A•C) This message was left at 15:43, 25 July 2020 (UTC) (and modified at 17:35, 25 July 2020 (UTC))[reply]

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