Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Social impact of YouTube

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. This may serve as the impetus for discussions about content management (merging, redirecting, revamping) but for the moment there's no consensus to delete. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:02, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Social impact of YouTube[edit]

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I am nominating this page for deletion as this article duplicates information already on the YouTube page. Now I'm going to give some reasons I think this page is not needed, I hope I make it clear. Anyhow this page is a fork that is unnecessary, catering to very few, if any, people. What I mean is that I am probably right is that no one will search and look up for this article; almost all the hits to this page is from the YouTube article. So it appears that a deletion is the right thing to do, as it has almost all the text on the other page. Merging that would be logical; deleting this page is in my opinion the right way to do. So I think it is sensible to delete this page. Sincerely my regards, I fail to see the reason for this pages existence; the subject is also not notable enough in its own right, nor is this article as of right now in an acceptable state. We should delete this page and remove the link to this page, as it already has enough information on its own. I hope I'm not to hard to understand, but what I am saying and I hope I make it clear, is that this article fails on multiple fronts to establish notability, fails OR and other things I know is wrong, but can't pinpoint that policy. My advice is to delete the page and merge whatever the rest of information it may have; right now, it's not interesting or appears to be good enough to find it worthy of an article on its own. I hope you take my comments at face value. --Pretty les♀, Dark Mistress, talk, 16:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 17:10, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 17:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 17:14, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to YouTube#Social impact, from which it was unnecessarily split. This is just YouTube#Social impact with more WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. We already have List of YouTube personalities, so I don't see much reason to list them out here, too, but with worse citations. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 20:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, educational and encyclopedic. Per Wikipedia:Summary style, this info might be too big and too large and too much really to have back at the other article, but rather could be expanded upon with additional sourced info, here. — Cirt (talk) 15:52, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Temporary Redirect. There is massive potential for the concept of the article, even though most of the present article focuses improperly on accomplishments within YouTube. Examples of valid impact of YouTube outside YouTube:

(1) TED Talks curator saying saying web video, including YouTube, is "launching a whole new cycle of crowd-accelerated innovation" and "It's not too much to say that what Gutenberg did for writing, online video can now do for face-to-face communication".

(2) Way for minorities and minority viewpoints to more easily be heard; see "In online video, minorities find an audience" (I already inserted into article).

(3) Winner of George Foster Peabody Award: YouTube is "a “Speakers’ Corner,” where Internet users can upload, view and share clips, is an ever-expanding archive-cum-bulletin board that both embodies and promotes democracy." (already in article; use my new link)

(4) The Youtube Music Awards: Why Artists Should Care: "Artists–mainstream or not–should take note of how this awards ceremony officially recognizes social media’s role in artist-to-audience relationships."

(5) Generation of outside-of-YouTube stars ("Notable successes") is also valid material, as those stars in turn have "social impact."

However, before moving forward, this article should be cleansed of material that is purely internal to the website, such as YouTube associate system, ranking system, upload process, video views within YouTube, etc. Initially, the shortage of content may make a redirect the better option, until the concept develops enough to warrant a separate article. RCraig09 (talk) 19:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The article needs a cleanup but is worth keeping as a separate article. There is too much material here to simply merge it into YouTube.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is wrong; if you actually read the article, much of it is already on the YouTube page. 70 percent of the article is duplicated on the YouTube page. --Pretty les♀♥, Dark Mistress, talk, 13:46, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - as a reasonable WP:SPINOUT from the main YouTube article. Then clean-up and copy edit accordingly per the suggestions above. Northamerica1000^(talk) 05:27, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.