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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to 2024 Icelandic presidential election#Candidates as a viable ATD. Keep arguments do not make the case for why this candidate is exempt from general N:POL or why she's notable outside her candidacy. History is preserved should she win Star Mississippi 15:21, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sigríður Hrund Pétursdóttir[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG due to lack of WP:SUSTAINED significant coverage. One of several minor canditates for the president of Iceland. Of the sources in the article, the sigridurhrund.is article is not independent of the subject, Vísir article is not SIGCOV and is based on an announcement from an organization she worked for and the RÚV article is based on her own announcement that she is running for president. A search for sources turned up some interviews and mentions, but nothing significant. Alvaldi (talk) 17:41, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:59, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for now: The poll on the election page shows Sigríður as the favorite. We can delete later, if/when she falls in support. Inspector Semenych (talk) 22:13, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Inspector Semenych Firstly, she has a at best 8% support according to those polls. Secondly, per WP:POLITICIAN being an unelected candidate for political office is not enough for a subjects article to be kept. Either she passes WP:GNG or she doesn't. Currently, there is no evidence that she does. Alvaldi (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but expand from a quick google search I found a bunch of articles talking about her which aren't included on her page. Include those and she should be able to pass WP:BIO. Scu ba (talk) 19:06, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Scu ba Could you please show the best WP:THREE of them that constitute as a significant coverage that help her pass WP:GNG? Alvaldi (talk) 19:15, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, 1 2 3 4 5 admittedly, I don't know enough about Icelandic media to know if these are tabloid websites, but I think one of these is already cited on her page. Scu ba (talk) 19:18, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Scu ba The Heimildin article is almost entirely based of her statement which is not independent of the subject. With the lack of independent prose by the journalist, it is not significant coverage. The Vísir.is article is a large article that mostly focuses on the history of the presidency. It does have around four paragraphs on her that are independent. The bpwiceland2022.is article is not independent of the subject. It is a website of a conference where she was one of the speakers. The Dagblaðið Vísir article is based entirely on her announcement and includes a single line of independent prose. The FKA source is not indepentent of her as it is from the Association of Businesswomen in Iceland where she was the chairman. Alvaldi (talk) 19:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    "almost entirely based of her statement" yeah, they reported... on her statement... not sure how you can write an article about someone running for president if you we can't use articles that quote her announcing she's running for president.
    We can mention she spoke at the BWP conference and the chairwomen of the FKA, not sure why that can't be included.
    Scu ba (talk) 19:54, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    While it is fine to use them in some cases as a source, non-independent sources, such as works or statements produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it, cannot be used to establish notability per WP:Notability. Also note that WP:SUSTAINED significant coverage is required for the subject to be considered per WG:GNG. A brief burst of coverage, such as a few articles around an announcement is not enough. Alvaldi (talk) 21:42, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The other thing is we typically redirect candidates who are only notable for being candidates to their election page, or delete them. Just receiving coverage for running for something isn't enough. SportingFlyer T·C 22:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That too, but the articles also give a brief biography of her. I've got a feeling that this is going to turn into another Ryan Binkley situation, a minor candidate for US president that had his page deleted 3 times because despite him having dozens of articles written about him, all of them are in the context of the presidential election. This page might have jumped the gun with making it so early, but she is only going to become more relevant as the campaign develops. Scu ba (talk) 20:05, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For the record, the poll that she had 8% support in was twofold. The first question was, who would you like as the next president. In that poll, she received less than five total votes. Not percent of the votes, but total votes. The second question was, which one of the five persons who have officially decleared their candidacy for president they would choose, if any, 8 percent choice her while 77 percent choice "None of the above". In a poll conducted in February by Gallup, she didn't gather a vote. So whatever feelings you are having towards this candidate, it is not shared by the Icelandic population. That said, the inclusion of articles on Wikipedia are not based on feelings, they are based on sources. So either the subject has multiple sources of significant sources over a significant period of time or she doesn't have an article. Alvaldi (talk) 20:57, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Additional analysis of proposed source material would be quite helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Source analysis was requested. Three of the presented sources are just how she announced her presidential campaign, which we basically automatically exclude under NPOL as candidate coverage, and the exception - that the campaign itself was so notable she's a notable candidate - does not apply. The fourth is just a profile from an organisation she works with (not secondary), and the fifth appears to be some sort of non-interview interview (not secondary). She is simply a political candidate who does not yet qualify for an article - if additional sources are found that make her notable outside of her candidacy, or she wins, we can keep/restore the article. SportingFlyer T·C 10:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to 2024 Icelandic presidential election#Candidates. Policy-based arguments so far are against retention. One "keep" argues with polls, which are irrelevant, and another proposes sources which were convincingly shown not to meet WP:GNG's requirements. Given that notability remains possible if further sources are found, the appropriate WP:ATD for now is a redirect to the election. Sandstein 14:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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