Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Settimana bianca

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:37, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Settimana bianca[edit]

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Wikipedia is not a dictionary, purpose of the article seems to be the promotion of winter resorts. Remsense诉 22:40, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Travel and tourism, Sports, and Italy. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 23:07, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, the page is the literal translation of its Italian counterpart, I have not really investigated the topic in depth, but the page seems to go beyond a dictionary definition, and the bold claim that "purpose of the article seems to be the promotion of winter resorts" seems a baseless accusation, since no specific place (let alone resort name) is mentioned on the page. On the other hand, the Resort page mentions several resort names and locations, but we will certainly not delete it for that reason. Cavarrone 10:26, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not baseless, it's based in the promotional tone of the entire article. Remsense诉 16:17, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To offer an alternative opinion, I think this is a matter of cross-wiki norms/sensitivity. There are some phrases in the article that are definitely more common/acceptable in the Italian-language Wikipedia than they are in the English-language Wikipedia, e.g.:
It offers an opportunity for participants to immerse themselves in a variety of snow-related activities amidst the scenic Alpine landscapes.

It provides a chance for individuals and families to bond over shared experiences and create lasting memories amidst the snow-covered peaks.
A tell-tale sign that this isn't intended as a promotional article is that it's not clear what it's promoting other than "go and ski in Italy", but "skiing in Italy" is likely a viable article if an interested editor took the time to write it (cf. Skiing in Australia, Skiing in Lebanon, Skiing in India). In any case, AfD isn't clean-up, and it seems fairly easy to rescue the topic from the current article's language. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 14:30, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I agree with Cavarrone, the article can be improved, but it goes far beyond a dictionary entry. And I do not find it promotional, or at least I do not understand what it wuold be aimed to promote.--Pampuco (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. This has in fact become a big deal in the fashion world, but sourcing could be impractical, since many of the sources are on social media, such as Instagram, or popular magazines like Men's Health. If anything, it could become a promotional tool for the fashion industry. Bearian (talk) 18:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per WP:NOTDICTIONARY. Bhivuti45 (talk) 10:44, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:35, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. This isn't really a dictionary definition; it's a national social-cultural event/season, which easily returns significant coverage in reliable sources (here's a quick search of Italian newspapers: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5). For an example of coverage we expect to see, see this article in La Repubblica. As an alternative to deletion, a redirect to Sport in Italy#Winter sports would be viable. If Skiing in Italy existed, there would be a strong case for a merge. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 14:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per IgnatiusofLondon's accurate analysis above. I invite users to improve the language as they see fit, but as I said above wording problems are an unwanted effect of the very literal translation from it.wiki. I don't see a "promotion of winter resorts" intent on the page, which is a very general overview of the cultural phenomenon, without any mention of specific places or resorts. The page goes beyond a dictionary definition, and there are enough sources available to be eventually expanded to a B-Class/good level. Cavarrone 08:52, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.