Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sayera Reza

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The result was delete. Secret ^account 17:44, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sayera Reza[edit]

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WP:BLP, relying entirely on primary, commercial and bloggy/youtubey "sourcing" with not a shred of reliable source coverage in sight, of a musician who's presented in such a blatantly advertorial tone ("Technically very sound, Sayera’s rich voice, impressive range, and distinct voice signature have made her unique in the music industry. Especially she is exquisite in Sufi and Lalon songs.") that WP:NUKEANDPAVE applies regardless of her notability or lack thereof. She might certainly qualify for a properly written article, if she can be properly sourced as actually passing an WP:NMUSIC criterion, but even Beyoncé wouldn't be entitled to keep an article in this condition. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 23:12, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I am in agreement with Bearcat; the article either needs a major overhaul or needs to go. It is full of unencyclopedic wording. 331dot (talk) 23:54, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent|lambast 00:29, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent|lambast 00:29, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Citations consist of multiple YouTube references, wordpress, several other sources of songs, and one dead link which the waback machine shows to be yet another vendor of songs. The article itself is full of unencyclopedic, POV language: glorious, unique, truly gifted. Does she satisfy WP:MUSICBIO? Maybe she satisfies "two or more albums on a major record label" or "Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award". However, I want specific proof, not general claims.

If she turns out to be notable, it would be easier to start from scratch than to try and rescue the current text.

(On the lighter side, the first thing mentioned in the lead is that she is well-groomed? Really? To be fair, I think the writer is trying to use groom in the sense of "to train", but I couldn't resist.) --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 01:42, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:RS WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC. --Jersey92 (talk) 14:11, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Thanks for the observations. I agree with them; those errors were made due to not reading the wiki guidelines before posting the first ever article. I have now addressed all the observations. Provided enough secondary/authoritative references to prove the Singers credibility. There are many others which are in the process of collection. Also worked on the attributive words. Uploaded authoritative pics as well. Hope the article is now of wiki standard; discussion for deletion will be closed and will not be deleted.(Mareza1970 (talk) 17:34, 14 October 2014 (UTC))[reply]
Keep In response to the comments of Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 01:42, 10 October 2014 (UTC), I would argue that the Singer has two solo albums and numerious mixed audio and video albums from the top two record labels of Bangladesh: Laser Vision and G-Series. (Lalshobuj (talk) 17:32, 14 October 2014 (UTC))[reply]
Delete per Bearcat and fails WP:NMUSIC and WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 15:46, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ could not agree with Bearcat, because the singer fulfills the criterion of WP:NMUSIC and regarding WP:GNG- yes some of the URLs were wrong but now corrected. (Mareza1970 (talk) 18:32, 16 October 2014 (UTC))[reply]

Please do not put "Keep" more than once; only once is sufficient to express your desire to keep the page. 331dot (talk) 11:58, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A singer doesn't pass WP:NMUSIC just because you assert that she passes NMUSIC — it's actually a fairly frequent marketing tactic for musicians who want Wikipedia articles to claim that they pass an NMUSIC criterion (e.g. a "hit single" that was actually only ever played once on one radio station in their own hometown; "collaboration" with a famous musician just because the celebrity once retweeted them, etc.) that they actually don't pass when we investigate more deeply. Rather, what gets a singer past NMUSIC is the quality of reliable sourcing that you can or cannot add to verify that the assertion of passing NMUSIC is true. Without reliable source verification, they still fail NMUSIC regardless of the claim to passing it. Bearcat (talk) 23:47, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I don't see any reliable sources, done deal. Fails the GNG. Is there anyone who disagrees other than the SPAs? Nha Trang 20:07, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.