Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Save Max Sports Centre
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. (non-admin closure) voorts (talk/contributions) 03:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Save Max Sports Centre[edit]
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Semi-advertorialized article about a local sports facility, not properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria for sports facilities. As always, sports facilities are not "inherently" notable enough for Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show evidence of passing WP:GNG on reliable source coverage about them, but this is "referenced" entirely to primary source content self-published by the city council, with absolutely no evidence of media coverage shown at all -- and while it was only just recently tagged for notability issues, it has existed in this state since 2008 without seeing any better referencing added. Bearcat (talk) 15:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports and Canada. Bearcat (talk) 15:31, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Travel and tourism and Football. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 16:27, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Per nom. Svartner (talk) 16:39, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
*Delete This fails WP:GNG as none of the cited sources cover the subject in depth. The article is not even written in encyclopedic way. It is written as notes- Tumbuka Arch (talk) 21:58, 12 April 2024 (UTC)- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 09:32, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 09:37, 13 April 2024 (UTC)- GiantSnowman (talk · contribs), I have provided sources below. Cunard (talk) 11:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Cunard (talk) 11:16, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
- Jen, Leslie (2007-11-01). "Bend It Like Brampton". Canadian Architect. Vol. 52, no. 11. pp. 22–26. ProQuest 213347214. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.
According to the About page, "Canadian Architect is the journal of record of two national professional associations: the Royal Architectural Institute of Canada (RAIC) and the AIA Canada Society and is the official magazine of each association – carrying both the RAIC Journal and the AIA Canada Journal within the pages of Canadian Architect magazine." Leslie Jen is the former associate editor for Canadian Architect.
The review notes: "A predominantly white and silver colour palette is offset by the judicious employment of vibrant saturated colours in a plethora of applications, colours specifically chosen to communicate the active and energetic colours associated with athletics and athletic attire. To that end, horizontal bands of coloured glass are used sparingly on the curtain walls to animate the faades and to create jewel-toned splashes of light on the interior. High-contrast black and white tiles define the floor surfaces, a clever reference to the colours–or lack thereof–found in soccer balls and referee jerseys."
- Craig, Sheri (June–July 2008). "Putting the community into the centre". Building. Vol. 58, no. 3. pp. 20–23. ProQuest 229980346. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.
The article notes: "One example of the imaginative use of materials is Brampton, Ont.'s $26.5-million Soccer Centre, completed in May, 2007. The 152,000-sq.-ft. building includes four indoor soccer fields, bleachers, change facilities, a community wing and main lobby. It was designed to be easily converted to hockey and other indoor sports and is sized and scaled to operate with four independent programs running at the same time, including trade show events and other community activities."
- Brampton Guardian articles:
- "Soccer at the centre of new state-of-the-art recreation facility". Brampton Guardian. 2007-06-24. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.
The article notes: "The new Brampton Soccer Centre offers more than just soccer but make no mistake-- soccer will be at the centre of it all. ... The new facility, at 1495 Sandalwood Parkway East, at the intersection of Sandalwood and Dixie Rd., will be a year-round home for local soccer groups. Four indoor field houses are expected to get plenty of use. Each field measures 85 by 200 with seating for about 350 spectators."
- Frisque, Graeme (2018-06-30). "What's Going on Here? Renovations underway to transform Brampton Soccer Centre into multi-sport facility". Brampton Guardian. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.
The article notes: "The Brampton Soccer Centre was opened in 2007. The more than 120,000 square-metre property features four turfed field houses in a 14,200 square-metre indoor facility. The centre also currently features exterior fields and amenities including a splash pad. The city is looking to expand on the current soccer, dance and youth programming currently available at the site."
- Frisque, Graeme (2020-10-31). "Brampton Soccer Centre getting new name and sponsor". Brampton Guardian. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.
The article notes: "The Brampton Soccer Centre won’t be called that for much longer. The complex located at 1495 Sandalwood Parkway E. will be renamed the Save Max Sports Centre after the City of Brampton signed sponsorship agreement for the exterior naming rights with Save Max Real Estate Inc. The deal, announced by the city in a release on Oct. 26, is for 15 years and $2,512,500."
- "Soccer at the centre of new state-of-the-art recreation facility". Brampton Guardian. 2007-06-24. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.
- Jen, Leslie (2007-11-01). "Bend It Like Brampton". Canadian Architect. Vol. 52, no. 11. pp. 22–26. ProQuest 213347214. Archived from the original on 2024-04-13. Retrieved 2024-04-13.
- Keep per sources above which show notability. However, the article should be renamed as Brampton Soccer Centre as we do not use sponsored names for soccer stadiums. GiantSnowman 11:19, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per sources shown. Meets WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 21:46, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep According to sources found by Cunard, subject seems to meet WP:GNG. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 22:33, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The sources show this is just a run of the mill municipal sports complex. Fails WP:AUD of WP:NORG. SportingFlyer T·C 20:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- The article in Canadian Architect, the journal of record of two national professional associations—the Royal Architectural Institute of Canada (RAIC) and the AIA Canada Society—meets WP:AUD.
However, Save Max Sports Centre is not required to meet WP:AUD. Save Max Sports Centre is a building. The relevant guideline is WP:NBUILD, not WP:NORG (which WP:AUD is a part of). Cunard (talk) 09:46, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- The article in Canadian Architect, the journal of record of two national professional associations—the Royal Architectural Institute of Canada (RAIC) and the AIA Canada Society—meets WP:AUD.
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