Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sandesh Lamsal

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:38, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sandesh Lamsal[edit]

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This article was created as obvious self-promotion, but has since been cleaned from the most outrageous phrasing by others. However, I still can't see, or find, any reliable sourcing supporting notability. The references look like press releases at best. Bishonen | tålk 13:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Medicine and Nepal. Owen× ☎ 13:36, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Self-promotion by a spammer. Not a shred of notability. Maliner (talk) 03:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom, the subject is promoting himself. Macbeejack ☎ — Preceding undated comment added 10:43, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article was initially written by the author probably with COI on promotional tone, but other editors have significantly edited it with Neutral POV. The articles about the subject in International Business Times, Online Khabar, Mero Film, Celebrity Nepal, Swasthya Khabar, Tulsipur Online, News X, APN News, Nepal Live Today etc seem to be reliable and Notable to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiEditorNepali (talk • contribs) 11:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do they? I recommend you to read WP:Reliable sources. Note too that what the references say about the subject is also important. There's no depth, it's all breathless praise, and the statements in those outlets are all very similar - they all sound like they're based on press releases or interviews with the subject. Such things are not independent of the subject. Bishonen | tålk 14:42, 18 January 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Sources from Online Khabar are paid spam. I want to note that the subject of this article works there. So not at all contributing towards notability. Maliner (talk) 15:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(There was a problem with your link, which I have now fixed, Maliner.) Yes, his work there is indeed mentioned in our article: "From 2021, he has been writing medical articles in the national Online portal Online Khabar to provide medical knowledge in an understandable language for the local public.. Online Khabar is hardly an independent secondary source in relation to Lamsal. Bishonen | tålk 15:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Thanks Bish. Please see

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Both sources do not mention the author's name. It's reasonable to assume the subject authored both sources as part of a self-promotion scheme. Maliner (talk) 16:19, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Bishonen, Thank you for your comment. I agree with some of your points. But let me clear my point once again so that this will be the final statement from my side as a Editor from Nepal who contributes the articles here in Wikipedia related to Medicine(Hospitals, Doctors, etc).

1. While doing deep investigations on the issue you raised, I found that the articles about the subject were written in Nepali Version first (on January 2021) whereas the subject seems to have started contributing Medical articles in the English version of Online Khabar only after (July 2022), which declines the argument that there might be the COI on those articles.

2. The Online Khabar clearly mentions authors as their employee on the bio of the Writer profile of authors, but on the case of this subject there is nothing like this mentioned which again declines the argument that the subject works there.

In my opinion, it is fine to write medical articles by any professional individual on any online websites with the motive to create awareness related to health irrespective of what the news is published about the subject in another version of that website years ago.

3. In Nepal when the articles are written by the Media itself they don't mention the name of author. Rather I feel the articles with the particular author name might give the hint of COI of the author with the subject. I support that the articles about living people should be independent and written either by the Website itself or the Respective desk (News Desk, Sport Desk, or Entertainment Desk of the Newspaper).

4. These references can't be a part of press release because I found that the articles are written about the subject for over a long period of time. Press releases are published in a certain date and there is no mentions about it after it.

5. Lastly, I think that the articles clearly mentions the subject on the heading and these articles revolve around the subject till the last, digging deep about the subject. The articles can be on praise or negative opinion depending upon the works of the subject and his / her contribution to the society.

6. I am just a medical enthusiastic focused to create medical articles, articles about hospitals of Nepal and Notable doctors. I merely edited the article Sandesh Lamsal 2 or 3 times, that also on the basis of the argument on the talk page. Please don't drag me everywhere on this topic. I declare no COI on this subject neither want to create my Wikipedia journey defending this subject till the end. Happy Editing! Cheers WikiEditorNepali (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't drag me everywhere on this topic. Who dragged you here? Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Discussions among the editors before the Nomination For Deletion Here and Here, and their Vote for the Deletion here, dragged me. WikiEditorNepali (talk) 10:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Extremely ridiculous sources with extremely ridiculous claims, nothing indicating notability. Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:47, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.