Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Refugees as weapons

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. The sources presented by keep proponents have not been effectively challenged by opposing editors. Rewriting or moving the article can be discussed outside AfD. (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:08, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Refugees as weapons[edit]

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The entire article looks like an essay that is making the case for ideas presented in one book and one master thesis. The idea does not merit an entire article of its own. I do not see why a 1-2 paragraph subsection in the main article for Refugees would not be enough. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 21:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:01, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to Forced displacement. The examples given in that article are almost all examples of forced displacement, ethnic cleansing and human trafficking. A lot of the article is also WP:SYNTH.VR talk 01:43, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I found several book references using the term as described in the article. VR has some good arguments for merge, not being an expert on the subject, I cant vote either way on the merge suggestion. Jeepday (talk) 17:38, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep.Delete At the first glance, this claim appears in a very large number of sources, including books. I am not saying this is a valid concept. In many cases this could be just a notable propaganda slogan, but even as such it might be notable. However, after looking more carefully, the page appears way too much misleading, contentious, and WP:Coatrack. Hence WP:TNT would be the best option. My very best wishes (talk) 17:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 06:51, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I'm not sure what the best title for the article would be, but I've seen/read news stories about this topic under some label, so I believe sources, popular, political, and academic are there. The article does contain SYNTH and needs clean up. Regarding merging to Forced displacement, this topic is distinct even though related and I think merits its own article. So the article is in poor condition, but the subject is notable. I don't think this article is in the condition that TNT is required.  // Timothy :: t | c | a   12:53, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to "Relationship between refugees and terrorism". To add to the comments of TimothyBlue and Vice regent, this article looks as if it could be more broadly written to cover such a relationship, rather than merely using refugees as weapons. For me, it would work better because it falls under the immigration debate and seems even more notable than the current subject. Also, that the article is poorly written, though it is, is not an argument for deletion. FreeMediaKid! 21:59, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Come to think of it, it does sound rather surreal to change the subject to the proposed article name, as it somewhat makes terrorism look like an immutable trait of refugees, who themselves have been subject to persecution and violence. However, I would still defend my decision to move the article for the above reasons and also because it is mostly or almost entirely a concept, not a fact affecting a great deal of refugees. FreeMediaKid! 22:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: there do seem to be quite a few issues with this article; but I do think that the topic itself is notable. Just having a look on Google Scholar shows these sources, which appear to me to show that the topic is notable (I haven't thoroughly read all of these; but having a look at the abstracts, they appear to suggest notability). Seagull123 Φ 17:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Collapsed list of sources left by User:Seagull123
    • Marder, Lev (23 February 2018). "Refugees Are Not Weapons: The "Weapons of Mass Migration" Metaphor and Its Implications". International Studies Review. Oxford University Press (OUP): 576-. doi:10.1093/isr/vix055. ISSN 1521-9488.
    • Greenhill, Kelly M. (2002). "Engineered Migration and the Use of Refugees as Political Weapons: A Case Study of the 1994 Cuban Balseros Crisis". International Migration. 40 (4). Wiley: 39–74. doi:10.1111/1468-2435.00205. ISSN 0020-7985.
    • Salehyan, Idean (2010). "Refugees as Weapons of the Weak". International Studies Review. 12 (4). Oxford University Press (OUP): 640–642. doi:10.1111/j.1468-2486.2010.00973.x. ISSN 1521-9488.
    • Anderson, Tim (2019). Axis of resistance : towards an independent Middle East. Atlanta, GA: Clarity Press, Inc. ISBN 978-1-949762-17-4. OCLC 1135357390. (chapter 11, "Refugees as Weapons of War")
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.