Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Queen Street East

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The result was redirect to List of roads in Toronto#Queen Street. Sources not provided. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:54, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Street East[edit]

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Redirect to List of roads in Toronto#Queen Street. Unlike Queen Street West, which is also a neighbourhood in Toronto, Queen Street east is the unnotable half of a possibly notable road. Article is unsourced and nothing more than a route description that can be copied verbatim to the target. No need for an independent article. ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 23:17, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Important Note - Less than a week ago, List of roads in Toronto was a simple list with multiple wikilinks to articles of streets included in the list. It was only less than 7 KB long.
Here is what it looked like on February 3, 2011.
On February 3, the nom then took various contents from all of those articles and placed them in this list article and removed most of the wikilinks, including to Queen Street East.[1] That article is now over 109 kb, way too long per WP:SIZERULE. I suppose this was all part of an effort to delete most Toronto street articles and just have summaries in this new parent one and add content from his own userspace for streets that had no articles and this AfD is an extension of that effort.--Oakshade (talk) 23:56, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Just as notable as Queen Street West, though a lot more work could be done on this page. I do think merging into a general article on Queen Street (Toronto) might make sense, though. - SimonP (talk) 23:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Queen Street West is about the neighbourhood more than the street. There is no Queen Street East neighbourhood; we call that The Beaches. Just because this is a continuation of Queen West doesn't make it all equally as important. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 23:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that a merge of the two spans into one article likely not appropriate, given that Queen Street West is/was everything from a neighbourhood to an arts scene. But let's be clear - Queen East is more than just the Beaches. It runs through Moss Park, Corktown, Riverside, Leslieville, etc. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect/Merge per nom. Imzadi 1979 → 17:32, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep per WP:SK — the nomination fails to advance an argument for deletion. Colonel Warden (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ontario-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:24, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:25, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - Per nom. Dough 48 72 21:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Along with Queen Street West, one of the most notable and important streets in Toronto, in both Downtown and greater Toronto. Even has a subway station - Queen (TTC). Far too much topic-specific content to be merged into an already too long article that should be just a list anyway (see "Important Note" above). --Oakshade (talk) 23:56, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect No notable info that cannot or should not be put in the list proposed in nom.--Yaksar (let's chat) 02:44, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - One of Toronto's most notable streets - historically served as the spine of the streetcar suburbs as Toronto expanded eastward. Serves as the main thoroughfare of a number of neighbourhoods. Surprised this is even an issue. To call it "just a continuation of Queen West" seems to ignore the historic, transport, public transit and community roles it plays.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 18:48, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The same roles that Queen West played to the development of the western suburbs. This either merits one article, or that this information be placed in the history sections of the neighbourhood articles. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ ^τ _¢ 18:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just because another road played a similar role doesn't mean this one isn't notable. And by your logic, we should eliminate Yonge Street because everything can be inserted into the history sections of neighbourhood articles.--Skeezix1000 (talk) 13:31, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No because Yonge Street has books specifically written about it, it has hundreds of sources which link the construction of the road to the future prosperity of Ontario as a whole, and its the first road in Ontario. Queen Street East is none of these and no sources which make anymore than a passing mention to it, since the commercial strip of the Beaches is on Queen East.

Redirect this one. I wholeheartedly support keeping articles on notable roads, but this wouldn't appear to be one. Nobody has yet provided any significant coverage in reliable sources, and with the exception of this I could only find passing mentions online. Will change to keep if more convincing refs are provided. Alzarian16 (talk) 10:39, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per SimonP. --Saforrest (talk) 15:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.