Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nichole Alden

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:51, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nichole Alden[edit]

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Non-notable musician. No evidence of any awards, or major reviews of her works. Her music has been used in some commercials, if her own YouTube videos of said commercials are to be believed (that is the sole source of verification of said facts), and in some films and trailers, but not to any notable degree. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 17:45, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:35, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I researched and updated her Wikipedia page. The fact that MTV decided to include her in its 'Artists List' is an indication of her public presence in the music industry. Apart from that, the collaboration in major advertisements for companies such as 'Audi' and 'Peugeot' as well as in the soundtrack of cinematic films further strengthens her professional profile. In my opinion, one does not have to reach the top in order to have its work accredited and recognized. Wikipedia is not a 'VIP Club'. NickCitizen

Comment The fact that Alden has an MTV artist page means that she decided to create one. An MTV artist page is about as hard to create as a MySpace page -- any artist of any talent level can create their own page. Collaboration with major advertisers only shows that she has found a useful way to make money with her music, not that she's notable for it. And for that matter, we really have no independent source to verify that the ads in question are using Alden's music; we have only some YouTube videos that claim the music is Alden's. Inclusion in a film soundtrack would be notable, if the film itself were notable. However, inclusion in trailers, and in ads for TV shows (but not in the film or TV show proper) doesn't really make the notability cut. And finally, NickCitizen, Wikipedia is not a 'VIP' club. But it is an encyclopedia of verifiable facts, and without significant independent sources covering Alden, there are no sources from which to verify any facts about her, so her article can't be retained. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:26, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No significant coverage found in reliable sources; does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:MUSICBIO (arguably #10 of the latter guideline, but there's no optimal redirect target) at this time. Gong show 14:55, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No delete I will admit that the article needs some work, and it reads like it's most likely a selfie. I do feel, however, that having almost a million hits on a myriad of posted videos and having her work associated with a number of internationally recognized films/television shows definitely makes her notable. Stub the page then fix the page - don't eliminate it.Jmasiulewicz (talk) 01:38, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Please remember that notability is not the same as popularity. Alden's popularity has not seemed to result in the generation of reliable sources from which to build a verifiable article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 11:21, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The only criterion of WP:MUSICBIO she comes even close to is (as User:Gongshow pointed out) is #10, "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable...", but #10 also points out that if that's the only claim to notability, a redirect may be appropriate. The best (or only) option I see is The Fog (2005 film)#Music, but what I'm really thinking is ... come back when you've got a record deal of your own. -Wine Guy~Talk 22:56, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG as well as MUSICBIO; she has no significant coverage, even at AllMusic. She falls into WP:UPANDCOMING. Bearian (talk) 16:19, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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