Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Newbury Hotel

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The result was redirect‎ to Mullingar. Owen× ☎ 00:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newbury Hotel[edit]

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Non-notable hotel that doesn't meet WP:GNG, WP:NORG or WP:NBUILDING. Similar to the related Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mullingar Park Hotel discussion, subject is a small 30-bed hotel that is indistinguishable from the hundreds or thousands of other hotels in Ireland (or the hundreds and thousands of hotels globally). In terms of:

WP:NBUILDING, while some neighbouring buildings are listed by Westmeath Council as protected structures, the hotel building is not. And so it doesn't meet WP:GEOFEAT. As it is not a structure with "protected status on a national level".
WP:NORG, the only coverage we have is ROTM directory-style entries for its formation, obit/births/deaths entries for its founders/owners, etc
WP:GNG, we are almost entirely reliant on hyper-local 40-word "snippets" and 20-word small ads to support the basic facts about the business's history/operation/etc. Including the less-than-standout info about a piano being played in its bar in the 1990s. Much of the coverage isn't even about the titular subject (but another non-notable hotel nearby). And could describe any business anywhere.

Available WP:ATDs (such as a redirect to Mullingar or List of hotels in Ireland) would seem arbitrary and excessive (relative to WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:NOTEVERYTHING). Guliolopez (talk) 17:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 17:35, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 17:35, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Travel and tourism-related deletion discussions. Guliolopez (talk) 17:35, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - There are a few good articles about the hotel. References 9, 10, 13 and 14 have good enough info to meet Wikipedia Guidelines.Perfectstrangerz (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. With apologies, I can't help but comment here. The current reference #14 is a piece about a different hotel. The subject hotel is barely mentioned in passing. And reference #10 is a 50-word notice about planning approval. Neither "addresses the topic directly and in detail" - as expected by WP:SIGCOV. Are we looking at the same refs and the same guidelines? Guliolopez (talk) 21:32, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - As with another recent case of a Mullingar hotel, this is a nice short summary of what looks to be an entirely non-notable business. It would fit very well in a directory of local businesses, or the listings page of a chamber of commerce or business association. But what makes it notable enough to appear in Wikipedia, beyond at most a mention in the Mullingar article? Per the previous tag, nothing is raised in the article to explain this - there is mention of a previous business at the location, but was Broder's Hotel notable either? As of now, it fails vs. multiple notability policies. If there is a historical factor which changes this, I'd be delighted to help document it - I don't want to discourage anyone. In which case, it might sustain a short article, or a Merge to a couple of lines in Mullingar. We simply can't have all 1,650+ hotels on the island of Ireland in the encyclopedia. What I will do is ask a couple of Mullingar friends if they know of anything. SeoR (talk) 10:50, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 23:49, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Mullingar per WP:ATD. I agree with SeoR's analysis that the article presently fails to demonstrate notability to justify a standalone entry. Local newspaper coverage of the hotel suggests routine stuff. Insofar as the previous establishment is concerned, Broder's Hotel gets a mention for a branch meeting of the National Army Spouses Association in February 1989, and held the inaugural meeting of the Mullingar Sailing Club in April 1964 (1, 2). To be as generous as possible, by preserving the page's history, a redirect could harmlessly allow a dedicated editor to integrate the establishment into Mullingar's history/economy section as appropriate and allow the possibility of the article's recreation if additional sources come to light. IgnatiusofLondon (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or Redirect to Mullingar - not a notabale hotel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spleodrach (talk • contribs) 13:55, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:07, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or redirect. The coverage is entirely local. There is no coverage in popular tour guides. This fails my standards. Bearian (talk) 15:24, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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