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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to National Wrestling Federation. There's been some weird process here. In particular, please don't move drafts to mainspace just so you can nominate them for deletion. If you think a draft should be deleted, nominate it in-place via WP:MfD. But, more to the point, if you think something is not notable, don't even make it into a draft. Drafts are for things you expect to develop into real articles.

There's obviously disagreement about how this topic should be covered. There's clear consensus of the participants in this AfD that the 1986-1994 material should be covered in the main article, hence the merge. Moab12 obviously disagrees, and since K.e.coffman declined the draft, he apparently disagrees that it's notable on its own. So, after the merge, I suggest everybody get over to Talk:National Wrestling Federation and hash out their concerns. This is fundamentally a content dispute, which AfD doesn't get involved with. If you can't come to consensus on the talk page, availing yourselves of WP:3O might be a way forward. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:02, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

National Wrestling Federation (1986-1994)[edit]

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Non notable professional wrestling promotion. Moab12 (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 11:42, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Simply because two entities share the same name does not mean they should share the same article, see Wikipedia:Disambiguation. I created the "new" article to disambiguate the original NWF from the completely unrelated NWF. I find this to be the simplest way to have a deletion discussion on the NWF I believe is non notable, as it would confuse everyone to have a deletion discussion that only refers to half an article. Moab12 (talk) 13:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's been removed before, but since it's been stable in the article since August 2011 I figure it's best to have some sort of discussion rather than arbitrarily delete the content. I don't see it matters much whether we had the discussion here, the article's talk page or at WT:PW, this venue seemed more appropriate to me. Moab12 (talk) 14:49, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • That might be the case, but have the conversation, first. AFD is not the right place to have a conversation about content located within an article, which this is a back-door way of doing. MPJ-DK you might have some comments to add to this discussion since you removed it like 10 years ago. - Galatz גאליץשיחה Talk 15:51, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpgjhpjm 12:15, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Wrong place to have this discussion. FOARP (talk) 14:46, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is the right place to have this discussion. Either this organisation is notable enough for its own article, or it isn't and it should be deleted. We don't merge unrelated organisations into one article because they share the same name. Moab12 (talk) 06:17, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • This seems grossly wrong. The article was split to a new article; which you should only have done if you felt it did meet GNG. In this case, it's a content dispute, which should go with a regular consensus building talk. To be honest, it's quite likely the promotion in question probably is notable; so the discussion is a bit moot. The fact that the companies aren't the same makes no difference to if it should be in the same article. This should be closed and potentially merged/redirected. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:24, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Per Wikipedia:Disambiguation we don't cover separate companies in the same article. Do you have any reliable sources to establish the notability of this NWF? Moab12 (talk) 08:39, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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