Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naila Nayem (4th nomination)

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 09:59, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Naila Nayem[edit]

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No notable film credit. Not even a well known model in Bangladesh. Her popularity has fallen as an actor and model since the first nomination. The film Run Out is non notable. She was not in lead role there. Mar11 (talk) 00:46, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. Ernestchuajiasheng (talk) 14:11, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the last vote in the last discussion was from a Bangledeshi editor who knew what was up and should have been headed. As he pointed out, Nayem did not act in a film, she had a role as a dancer in one song in a film. At present her career just does not pass the notability requrements for entertainers.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep- She is well known in Bangladesh and that is backed up reliable sources. A quick search on google news will show articles about her. Notability is not temporary, once a subject is notable, it should be assumed that they are notable for good regardless of the drop in interest from the media. In her case I dont believe there is a decline. Run out is not her only claim to notability, she has acted in commercials, music videos, and has done ramp shows. There was a Bangladeshi editor voting for delete, and there is now one voting for keep. Some sources Bangladesh's famous model Naila Nayem's ex-husband featured in latest ISIS video?, she is also notable for a commercial that was censored, Sabbir and Naila Nayem's ad gone off air, Naila Nayem: the glamorous nurse.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 15:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Vinegarymass911. Shellwood (talk) 21:01, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Joe (talk) 10:54, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep for several reasons. First the nomination was faulty, because it was made in contradiction to notability guideline. "Her popularity has fallen" so let's delete it (from nom statement). This is against WP:NOTTEMPORARY. Her notability was asserted when the article was created and tested 3 times later and proven. Popularity is ephemeral, many people were popular in the last decade but now you would thought they're dead while they still live but we don't delete the articles. Also

Find sources with her native name in the language she'll likely be reported more 'নায়লা নাঈম'. Don't base WP:GOOGLEHITS and notability upon searching English name, very likely filtered by country level domain
[1], [2], [3], and [4] All have coverage about her and are independent of each other.. These and the sources present in the article will establish meeting WP:GNG and as have been shown before even without some. –Ammarpad (talk) 11:11, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Strong delete as per nom. And from my argument from previous nomination, "She appeared in item song in a movie and a single drama. And thats it. She is popular through her facebook page although she does not hold the highest fan base in facebook from Bangladesh, for that she does not pass the notability for entertainers criteria. She did not acted any movie or drama rather dance item song in a movie (Run Out (film)) and a single drama [5]." -Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 07:13, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
1. Your idée fixe to get her article deleted is very strange and below timeline may shed light on something. First: Articles are not deleted because we don't like them. Peruse the following timeline. In the 3rd AfD and this one you claimed ."She is popular through her facebook page although she does not hold the highest fan base in facebook from Bangladesh, for that I don't think she passes the notability for entertainers criteria.". This statement of yours shows clear misunderstanding of criteria for notability and notability concept itself. It was never and will never be on the size of fandom or social media popularity. If you don't understand what I mean, that's another problem.
2. Second. The article exists on Bengali Wikipedia where you're sysop but I wonder why you left article of non notable person on Wikipedia where you hold advanced right.
3. You wrote "As a editor from Bangladesh, I can vouch for the Deletion of the article." Do you think this is policy-based or guideline-based argument and should be used in closing discussion?
4. You tried getting it deleted closed as keep. Less than one month later you tried again, closed as speedy keep. Then someone did the third nomination where you claim she is ""not notable since he doesn't have the highest fan base". Also closed as keep. Please during these nominations why you didn't speedily deleted the article on bn.wiki as non notable or at least nominated it for deletion? Or have you tried that also?! This is very, very odd. –Ammarpad (talk) 07:49, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:08, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments @brahim Husain Mera. Here is the unsuccessful AfD on Bengali Wikipedia that you started and closed as keep. Not satisfied you continued arguing on talkpage where unfortunately the consensus didn't favor you. You also tried getting it deleted here unsuccessfully 3 times. This idée fixe to get this particular article deleted speaks volume. –Ammarpad (talk) 01:46, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - seems to satisfy GNG. Here's another secondary source about her [6]. -Indy beetle (talk) 03:57, 23 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per above - Judging by the reliable sources she seems to just about meet GNG - Not a shining example however meets GNG nonetheless. –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 20:15, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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