Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michelle Shields

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. ‑Scottywong | chat _ 15:01, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Michelle Shields[edit]

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Actress who receives the briefest of mentions in four articles that I can find on Frankenstein: Day of the Beast, the biggest (released) movie that she has worked on so far. However, I can not find any significant coverage of her, or coverage outside the context of this one film. Perhaps one day, but not yet... Livit⇑^Eh?/_What? 20:30, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quick google search yields hundreds of results for this person, especially as "michelle shields actress" hence why this page was created. Going very deep in google results with success still. Most talk doesn't focus on the one particular film, which it shouldn't. More articles are available. Most of the initial results are of interviews from magazines, webzines, etc. This person is also attached to several big name horror conventions as a guest this year alone in CA, IN, IL, etc. Also attached next to a remake of a well known franchise. The reason above stating non-significant coverage is a non reason to remove this page if there are any. While there are reasons to be critical of articles that potentially go up, this doesn't seem like one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johneoc1 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So add some of those references to the article. •••Life of Riley (T–C) 15:00, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete - If Shields has appeared in significant roles in multiple notable films, she would meet WP:NACTOR. She has been in a major role in Frankenstein: Day of the Beast, while it is questionable whether her role in Sister Mary was significant (I can't find reliable sources to convince me it was). This may simply be a case of an article written too soon for a young up-and-coming actor, but it won't take much in the way of reliable sources to convince me to change my 'vote'. Sionk (talk) 17:48, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:33, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Added a few references for appearances and film. Will be finding more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johneoc1 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be too soon. Merge to Frankenstein: Day of the Beast, without prejudice to recreation if she is shown to meet WP:NACTOR at a later date. - Jorgath (talk) ^(contribs) 20:14, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:18, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Shields appears to be notable among the niche market in which she acts. Based on citations, she is a frequent topic of blogs in the market and a featured guest at various conventions. Sourcing appears to be from blogs, rather than the desirable reliable sources, but in some niche markets (such as 'B' horror films), blogs are the most reliable sources available. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:33, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question (not intended as badgering)—If reliable sources for a particular topic do not exist, do we give a free pass to use unreliable sources to prove notability? Or is that just just further proof that the topic is non-notable? Livit⇑^Eh?/_What? 14:44, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If she is notable someone somewhere, even if it is a tiny circulation specialist magazine, would have noticed. If the author can only find a couple of blogs and a couple of Facebook pages (big no-no!) then she is probably off the 'notability' radar! Sionk (talk) 09:15, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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