Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lootah family

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Not thrilled to delete this, but I'm willing to go along with it. More than happy to userify or restore just as soon as a motivated editor and a couple of sources appear. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 02:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Lootah family

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Recommend deletion because fails WP:BIO. This page has no references and has been up since December 2006. It is frequently vandalized by IP editors, but without sources it is difficult to tell what is vandalism and what is not. It is an orphaned article having a single article link from the /* See also */ of the Al Hamiri family article. I note that the article is not a hoax, that S.S. Lootah Group is a significant employer in the United Arab Emirates, and that Haji Saeed Ahmed al-Lootah was a real person, with his philanthropy noted in the Dubai pharmacy college and Dubai Medical College for Girls articles. Nonetheless, this current article is unsubstantiated and general notability has not been shown for the family. --Bejnar (talk) 01:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 02:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

• Delete without prejudice towards recreation with sources. Miami33139 (talk) 02:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
• Comment From a quick search through google and google news it appears that this family is notable. Primary sources and blog posts indicate that they are associated with important businesses in UAE, and in a lot of news stories about other topics, various government officials with the last name "Lootah" were quoted. I think it's pretty clear that the reason why we don't have reliable sources is the language barrier. On one hand, it's OK for articles to be imperfect to be improved later, and we must always be mindful of systematic bias. On the other hand verifiability is crucial. Considering all this I refrain from taking a definite position. AfD hero (talk) 22:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Consider that this is a WP:BIO case, it may be better to have nothing at all until someone with the appropriate language skills can recreate it. Is there an Arabic noticeboard to find existing Wikipedians that might volunteer to do that? Miami33139 (talk) 22:36, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.