Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Liu Chang (actor)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Atlantic306 (talk) 00:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Liu Chang (actor)[edit]

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The article does not meet WP:GNG, WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, WP:NACTOR or WP:NSINGER. Article is unsourced and WP:BEFORE turned up nothing that meets direct and indepth WP:SIGCOV from WP:RS / WP:IS. Wikipedia needs to follow sourcing and notability guidelines strictly for BLPs. // Timothy :: talk 15:21, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete/Draftify - Doesn't meet WP:N, has no WP:RS and does WP:PEACOCK— Ad Meliora ^Talk∕_Contribs 19:21, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ad Meliora: I did re-write this article, so please reconsider your opinion on this AfD. Thanks VocalIndia (talk) 13:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VocalIndia Thank you for your contribution. I'd like to point out a few principles: 1. WP:GNG requires indepth WP:SIGCOV from WP:RS / WP:IS. 2. WP:INHERITED is not a good argument, i.e. being associated with something notable (e.g. appearing in a notable film) does not automatically make the subject notable. The subject must be notable in its own right. 3. WP:NACTOR does not supercede WP:GNG but is merely a helpful rule of thumb. 4. Everthing that's notable for regional Wikipedia projects is not necessarily notable for English-language Wikipedia.

Now specifically with respect to this article, unfortunately, even after your new edits, I am not convinced the subject meets WP:N. Further, per WP:NFILM, just being released does not make a film notable. This is an encyclopaedia, for listings database, there's IMDB (which, by the way is not WP:RS / WP:IS.). Tomb of the Sea Side Story: Hua Mei itself will be nominated for deletion as none of the Chinese sources cited are WP:RS / WP:IS.. — Ad Meliora ^Talk∕_Contribs 12:51, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He meet WP:NACTOR, had a lead role in the 2018 film Tomb of the Sea Side Story: Hua Mei (沙海番外之画媒), and 2020 TV series Reunion: The Sound of the Providence. A basic Google search show that these dramas did all air. The series don't have WP articles, but that is not an indication of non-notability, they simply have no been created yet. Trying to find English-language sources for a Chinese subject and automatically brushing aside native-language sources is truly narrow systematic bias. I fond enough sources in Chinese to say that he meets WP:GNG, see [1], [2],[3], [4]. Btw I will create WP article for his film and TV series and add this sources to the article. Cheer VocalIndia (talk) 09:19, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have created his film article Tomb of the Sea Side Story: Hua Mei, also added sources, tone down promo and major expanded to the article. I think there is sufficient evidence that he meets WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR.VocalIndia (talk) 13:18, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (undecided) - A search for his Chinese name, 劉暢, reveals a lot of results in what appear to be entertainment news websites in that country. He definitely has a lot of media coverage in his own right. Since I cannot read Mandarin I am unable to determine if those sources are sufficiently reliable, but I recommend that this discussion proceed in that direction. ☆ DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) ☆ 22:10, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:13, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:27, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep meets WP:NACTOR#1. He was part of the main cast of, which doesn't have a WP article yet, but appears to have got a lot of coverage in China. 185.205.141.121 (talk) 02:15, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A quick look at sources at Baidu Baike's version of the article show enough WP:SIGCOV (there are probably better choices, but examples [5] [6]. Jumpytoo Talk 05:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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