Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of NHL players who spent their entire career with one franchise

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The result was no consensus. postdlf (talk) 20:01, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of NHL players who spent their entire career with one franchise[edit]

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Completely arbitrary list, which is not anything recognized either in the NHL itself or in hockey as a wider sport. Ten seasons is not some inherent mark of notability, and there is no reason such a list needs to exist. Kaiser matias (talk) 03:25, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete long tenures are notable, but the parameters of this list aren't. I found lists of the most famous players to only play with one franchise, but that is editorial in nature.18abruce (talk) 00:11, 11 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The topic of spending career with one team is a notable topic in the NHL. Therefore it is a valid list. Per the guideline on lists, the individual items in a list don't need to be notable, just the list itself and it is. -DJSasso (talk) 10:40, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:03, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as Djsasso says, this is a valid, notable topic. Lepricavark (talk) 03:10, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ice hockey-related deletion discussions. Lepricavark (talk) 03:17, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, but with caveats. I agree that the topic of players spending their entire career with one team is notable (at least, I know it is in other sports, and would be surprised if it's not in hockey). My concern at present is a lack of sourcing specifically saying that 10 years is the "right" cutoff point - it's an appreciably long time, sure, but unless there's a general sense among extant sources that spending your career in the one place for a decade rather than 8 years or 12 (for example), then it's an arbitrary number. As a secondary issue - and probably more of a cleanup one than anything else - I'm puzzled by some of the ways the years are listed, in that you have Bob Armstrong (listed second) reading "1950-1951, 1952-1962", which implies a break for some reason, while another name (Bill Barber, both cases selected randomly) reads "1972-1984", implying no break. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 12:04, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:41, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - As others have stated, this is a notable topic within hockey at least. I recognize issues around setting a cutoff, but I don't have a problem with 10 as it represents a substantial career and fits the cultural affection for round numbers. That said, I would have no objection if a discussion results in a consensus that the appropriate cutoff should be 8 years or 12 years or some other non-trivial duration. But that is an editing issue, not a basis for deletion. Rlendog (talk) 21:34, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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