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Lauri Bonacorsi[edit]

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Fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Sports, and Missouri. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople and Texas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 18:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment But doesn't fail BASIC because the sourcing seems to be there (Inquirer, Golden Skate, etc.). As I mentioned to you here, NSKATE is less important than GNG/BASIC. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 21:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Ineligible for soft deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. NSKATE is not as important as BASIC. This is a useful short article on a skater who was reasonably successful in junior skating tournaments. Articles on those tournaments work in their current format because there are articles on most of the medalists; there is therefore no need to say anything about the medalists in such articles (for example: ISU Junior Grand Prix in Australia). Deleting articles such as this one, has a detrimental effect on other articles.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Please familiarise yourself with WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Your argumentation seems to fall fully within that realm. Geschichte (talk) 09:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That the subject of the article meets WP:BASIC is a valid policy-based reason for keeping the article. Hameltion had already given examples of significant coverage in two different reliable sources, so there was no point in my repeating them. Nothing in the essay you mentioned contradicts that.
Explaining how articles like this one support other articles is not a policy-based reason for retention. But it is nevertheless true.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You said that BASIC is important, which looks like a general statement. What we should do is discuss the actual sources and whether they are good enough to base a Wikipedia biography about a living person upon. The rest of it more or less clutter and should therefore be toned down. Geschichte (talk) 07:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is enough WP:SIGCOV in the sources already present in the article to meet WP:GNG. Yet another poor nomination. @Toddy1: You can see an archived version of the Inquirer article here. JTtheOG (talk) 06:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table: prepared by User:Toddy1
Mittan, Barry (January 17, 2010). "Junior Dancers Off to Good Start". Skate Today. Archived from the original on 13 March 2012.	Source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
Rutherford, Lynn (January 20, 2009). "New partners Bonacorsi, Mager dance to win". Icenetwork. Archived from the original on September 26, 2012. Retrieved September 9, 2011.	~ Source discusses the subject briefly	~ Partial
Walker, Elvin (October 16, 2011). "Bonacorsi and Mager hope to turn silver into gold". Golden Skate. Retrieved October 16, 2011.	Source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
Boccella, Kathy (February 27, 2011). "Radnor High skater's odyssey takes her to world championships". The Philadelphia Inquirer. Retrieved October 16, 2011. Boccella, Kathy (February 27, 2011). "Radnor High skater's odyssey takes her to world championships". The Philadelphia Inquirer. Archived from the original on 31 January 2013.	The first one is a gallery of four photographs. The captions discusses the subject very briefly. The second one is the article that goes with the gallery, which discusses the subject directly and in detail. Amended after JTtheOG provided an archive link	✔ Yes
"Lauri Bonacorsi and Travis Mager lead novice ice dance at 2009 U.S. Figure Skating Championships". LifeSkate. January 19, 2009. Archived from the original on October 4, 2011. Retrieved August 29, 2011.	Mentions the subject in passing	✘ No
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