Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Last Chance Garage

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The result was delete. Secret ^account 20:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Last Chance Garage[edit]

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A 4 min. documentary short that has garnered no coverage in independent reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG & WP:NOTFILM. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:54, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per TOO SOON. The film has completed but apparently has received no coverage. Lacking confirmation of its screening, we have a failure of WP:NFF. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 10:18, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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This 4 minute film was released a year ago, according to the article and IMDb. I don't see WP:TOOSOON or WP:NFF even applying. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:00, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Part of the issue is that IMDB does not actually tell us the film was released. The film's data page states the project moved from "in production" to "completed" and provides that the project had its "Status Updated: 30 June 2012"... but no release date. And apart from the short existing, other information in the article is unverifiable. I cannot find it shortlisted for an award at the Northern Nights Film Festival in London... and with apologies, I cannot even confirm in reliable sources that THAT festival even exists. Neither can I find reliable sources confirming this short being in any way involved with WorldKids International Film Festival.[1] I The AFD template's Find sources give us lots of false positives for businesses or television episodes by that same name.[2] In focusing the search, I include the film + director's name and find a lot of primary sources such as wordpress blogs speaking about how the film was "shortlisted" at various places, but nothing deemed as reliable. Same when including that of the "star".[3] We can watch the film online, but cannot independently confirm that it has screened at any festival anywhere. No disagreement from me that it definitely fails WP:GNG and WP:NF and its sub-sections. For a film that has been completed, is unverifiable as being screened at festivals, theaters, or television, and has no coverage in reliable sources, I think that my acknowledging WP:NFF and TOO SOON and that this project has not yet but might one day receive coverage, are the kindest of considerations I might opine for this director self-described "documentary-style reality promo". A delete is a delete. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 05:20, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And okay... the "Northern Nights Film Festival" does exist, but itself fails our inclusion criteria. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 07:48, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:51, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Steven Zhang ^{Help resolve disputes!} 00:10, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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