Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kartika Sari Dewi Sukarno

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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:05, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kartika Sari Dewi Sukarno[edit]

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Poorly sourced BLP article. Article and sources do not meet SIGCOV for GNG or NBIO. // Timothy :: talk 01:00, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting list for the following topic: Indonesia. JarrahTree 01:41, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG, only source in the article is a dead link. Delete per nominator. Tails Wx 01:44, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral on deletion, but I want to point out WP:ARTN. Belichickoverbrady (talk) 18:38, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the suggestion. Tails Wx 22:31, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The only dead source link which is retrieved in 2008 cannot verify. Per nominator. IntegerSequences (talk | contribs) 04:03, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The (archived) source is here, but it only mentions the subject's parentage, her wedding date and her husband's name and occupation. None of the other information in the article is cited. Davidelit (Talk) 04:23, 21 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:41, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The arguments to delete seem to rely too much on the state of the article, not based on searches. I did the searched, found CNN coverage which confirmed everything and improved the article. She seemed notable and there is lots of coverage for her, although translation issues and my unfamiliarity with Indonesian sources makes me not want to add them in. CT55555(talk) 02:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:SIGCOV. Mentions in sources are largely restricted to her being Sukarno's daughter, rather than actually achieving anything in her own right - except marrying - in sharp contrast to her step-siblings (e.g. Megawati Sukarnoputri and Rachmawati Sukarnoputri). At best she deserves a few sentences in the Sukarno article. Davidelit (Talk) 03:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - not everyone mentioned in the sukarno family template is adequately in the notability to adequately show significance beyond being in the family tree JarrahTree 11:23, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Dewi Sukarno. There are examples of her being covered in Japanese print media, which are rarely digitized, dating back to the 1990s, but her notability is undeniably tied to the notability of her mother, who is a television celebrity in Japan. In Japanese media, she is better known as "Karina Sukarno" (カリナ・スカルノ). When searching for her name in Japanese, virtually all sources simultaneously mention her mother, "Madam Dewi" (デヴィ夫人). —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 23:49, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. What's on this article is already mentioned on Sukarno#Children and briefly on Dewi Sukarno, no need to expand it to its own article as it fails WP:GNG Ckfasdf (talk) 14:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:06, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:GNG Almeida Fernando (talk) 06:29, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.