Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/José Arraño Acevedo

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The result was no consensus. Randykitty (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

José Arraño Acevedo[edit]

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Non-notable local newspaper journalist and self-learned "historian" who wrote two non-notable books. Appears to be famous only in his home town Pichilemu (pop. 13,000). Sietecolores (talk) 16:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arraño was not just a "local newspaper journalist", but a member of most Chilean regional and national newspapers, you can do a simple search on the National Library of Chile catalog, put there his name, and there will appear articles by him on Las últimas Noticias, El Mercurio, La Discusión of Chillán, La Prensa Austral, El Rancagüino, among many other publications. This nomination is motivated by bias against Pichilemu-related material, and should be speedily closed. --Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 23:09, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Having books indexed in the National Library of Chile catalog does not make one author notable. All books published in Chile are registered there. Can´t see anything notable in having been a journalist at the newspapers you mention. The newspapers does not confer notability to their journalist as McDonnald does not confer notability to its exployees. -Sietecolores (talk) 01:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You are purposedly distorting things, I urge you to stop such behavior. The National Library has some of his articles indexed separately from books and magazines, because the Library has a Critical References Archive. Such archive contains several articles about him, his books, (written by known Chilean literary authors), and there they are, publicly available. --Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 04:47, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So where are the "articles about him" and "his books"? Once we get these alleged documents on the table we can see if they can confer him notability or not. Sietecolores (talk) 17:57, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete an article without any encyclopedic relevance. --Keysanger (talk) 12:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hold I am very uncertain as to his individual notability, and cannot find anything of significance written by him, alas. Give the writer of the BLP a week - but if nothing is solid by then, delete with sadness. Collect (talk) 18:17, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Sadly I am not up for expanding or referencing the article myself, but I can help finding those references. Here are some reviews published about himself and his books: El Rancagüino, Diario VI Región (ago 27 2003), VI Región (again), VI Región (once again), Rancagüino (again), VI Región..., VI..., La Prensa of Curicó, VI..., Rancagüino (this one is written by a former deputy of Chile, Esteban Valenzuela), La Prensa of Curicó again, Cauce of Chillán, El Magallanes of Punta Arenas, La Región, Rancagüino, VI Región, La Región (this one about his radio programme), La Región (1994), Diario Renacer of Angol, La Mañana of Talca, Rancagüino, Región, and many others... most of these were authored by regionally/nationally-relevant writers Diego Grez-Cañete (talk) 03:31, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Seeing that all of the articles that I looked at were from regional newspapers, i did searches in as many of the national Chilean papers where I could find a search box, and consistently got zero. Can someone comment on policy around regional-only notability? I honestly don't know how to judge this - he seems very important regionally, but not at a national level. Is this a common pattern in Chile? Does it have to do primarily with what resources are available to us here online? LaMona (talk) 16:55, 13 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 10:54, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- The fact that someone has bothered to compile two books collecting some of his articles suggests to me that in Chile his work is regarded as notable. The fact that the books were widely reviewed implies the same. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:21, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 11:36, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Peterkingiron, could you give some examples of "widely reviewed"? I only saw reviews in local sources, which would not meet the terms of "widely" AFAIK. Thanks, LaMona (talk) 12:23, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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