Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonnie Penn

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The result was no consensus. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:52, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jonnie Penn[edit]

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Does not meet basic WP:N requirements, known only for fairly low-key MTV tv series, no notable awards, no significant news coverage as an individual. — raeky t 03:04, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 14:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:NACTOR. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 22:00, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - do not fail WP:GNG. Still has had involvement in major MTV productions it seems.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:23, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The Buried Life is hardly a major production.. source for "productions" or did you mean only one? What criteria of GNG specifically do you think this person meets? — raeky t 12:43, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:07, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:BK. Is not, in fact, even the author of a book. Qworty (talk) 10:16, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and allow continued improvements to this stuub. WP:AUTHOR does not refer to only authors of books, but is set to address creative individuals in general. As the MTV show The Buried Life , "major" or not, has established notability enough to merit a Wikipedia article, it can be argued that this person, as creator, executive producer and cast member of the show, meets WP:CREATIVE. And the book What Do You Want to Do Before You Die? IS a book, DID make the New York Times Bestseller list,[1] and WAS in fact co-authored by Penn,[2] so a claim that it is not a book or that Penn had no part in its creation is patently incorrect. As a book itself receiving coverage in multiple reliable sources,[3] the book meets the standards set at WP:NBOOK per WP:BKCRIT and the "author" portion of guideline and WP:NBOOK is met. And oh... we have the individual himeself being the recipient of coverage in multiple reliable sources... another point in his favor.[4] I see an improvable stub on a notable topic. I do not see anything that requires deletion. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:42, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.