Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jan Moedwil

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The result was speedy keep. Per the discussion below, nomination gladly withdrawn. The points in the discussion, while not establishing notability, do give a reason to presume there may be non-trivial sources that address the topic directly and in-depth. (non-admin closure) // Timothy :: talk 16:37, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jan Moedwil[edit]

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Article does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NPEOPLE - For people, the person who is the topic of a biographical article should be "worthy of notice" or "note"—that is, "remarkable" or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded". WP:BEFORE revealed no additional WP:RS that address the subject directly and in-depth that would establish notability. // Timothy :: talk 02:43, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. // Timothy :: talk 02:43, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. // Timothy :: talk 02:43, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Belgium-related deletion discussions. // Timothy :: talk 02:43, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He is discussed in this English language book and in English publications during World War II. There are many sources in Dutch and French. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:30, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Extensive Gbook references are available. His radio program launched the "V for Victory" campaign in July 1941 in Belgium, that was started by the BBC.[1]. scope_creep^Talk 07:10, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I've had trouble finding WP:SIGCOV and would note that the corresponding articles in frwiki and nlwiki are unreferenced. This is the closest to sigcov I've been able to find, but I can't read Dutch. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 14:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Concerns about WP:SIGCOV (mostly) aside, I think he meets WP:NAUTHOR criteria 3 and/or 4, especially 3: The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. I think broadcasts of Radio Belgique count as a significant or well-known work. Or, as a recipient of the Order of Leopold (Belgium), he meets WP:ANYBIO criterion 1. (As an aside, TimothyBlue: you might think I'm being hypocritical by citing WP:SNGs when I agree with you that presumptions of notability still require evidence and do not result in a keep by default. But I think the coverage I've found, which is now in the article—aside from the Dutch source—demonstrates that the presumption should hold in this case.) AleatoryPonderings (talk) 15:26, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Cullen328 found a source that appears to be non-trivial. In addition, while the the brief mentions I and others have found don't establish notability, they do give a reason to believe there may be other non-trival sources that address the topic directly and in-depth. AleatoryPonderings brings up some points that again, while they don't establish notability, make me believe sources could well exist. So to err on the side of caution and not delete a potential good article, I'll happily switch to keep on the presumption they exist. (re: AleatoryPonderings aside comment: I always find your comments useful and thoughtful). // Timothy :: talk 16:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.