Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iranian in Republic of Azerbaijan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The consensus is that this is redundant to a superior article at Iranian Azerbaijanis. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 02:05, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Iranian in Republic of Azerbaijan[edit]

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Article is completely redundant to Iranian Azerbaijanis. It was created by a new user, Eight for Eight, and redirected for all the right reasons by White King, Writ Keeper's alter ego. See User talk:Writ Keeper/Archives/9#Iranian in Azerbaijan for a bit of detail. Eight for Eight reverted with the grammatically and rhetorically insufficient edit summary "(is Diapora all of the diapora article". I restored the redirect, to find my actions undone, without any explanation, by Serzhik. Let's settle this. If the other name is better (ahem--note the grammar and the subsequent name change, which made it even worse since the "notables" mostly precede the founding of the republic) a move discussion should be started. This duplication and the attendant improperly explained edit warring is disruptive, and the very poorly written duplicate should be deleted. Drmies (talk) 14:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I see now that Serzhik has left an explanation (of sorts) on Talk:Iranians in Republic of Azerbaijan, which is as grammatically challenged as the comments left elsewhere by Eight for Eight. Drmies (talk) 14:52, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Part of the problem may be that the newer article is written in relatively poor English that makes its subject difficult to understand. Iranian Azerbaijanis, the target of my redirect, is about people of Azerbaijani descent who currently live in Iran. The title of the new article and Serzhik's explanations seem to imply that the new article is about the inverse; that is, people of Iranian descent who currently live in Azerbaijan. But the text of the article is ambiguous at best: "...citizens of Iranian nationality and Iranian citizens abroad are Azerbaijani citizens and permanent residents of mainly ethnic Azerbaijani background..." sounds like it's referring to people of Azerbaijani descent who were citizens of Iran at one point and then left Iran, which sounds much closer to the topic of Iranian Azerbaijanis than the purported subject of Iranian in Republic of Azerbaijan. Indeed, the text of the article has a population figure that is labeled with a link to Iranian Azerbaijanis! So, if my and Drmies's original assumption is true, then this article should be deleted as a duplicate of Iranian Azerbaijanis. If it is incorrect, then the article should at least be moved to Azerbaijani Iranians or something analogous with a proviso that extensive reworking is required, if not deleted anyway (without prejudice towards rewriting/recreation, and with the standard allowances for userfying, etc.) for general incoherence. I'm sorry, but it's difficult, if not impossible, to parse even the topic of the article from its text, much less any useful information. Writ Keeper (WK to move) ⚇♔ 14:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@ User:Drmies: Iranian Azerbaijanis and Azeris in Iran isnot Iranians in Republic of Azerbaijan. i say in this talk page.

Iranians in Republic of Azerbaijan and Iranian Azerbaijanis Is different.

Iranians in Republic of Azerbaijan means persians, Azeris and other Ethnic minorities in Iran, now living in Republic of Azerbaijan example diaspora and are Ethnic groups in Azerbaijan
Iranian Azerbaijanis means Azeris native in Iran and Ethnic groups in Iran.

be short in this article isnot Reason to remove. plz see short article for the turkish and Armenians daispora Turks in Spain, Armenians in Bahrain--Serzhik (talk) 14:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 19:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 19:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 19:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists of people-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000^(talk) 19:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:19, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as already exists in a much more detailed and much more adequately alternative title, and isn't a likely search term (stats.grok has it at "Iranian_in_Republic_of_Azerbaijan has been viewed 42 times in the last 30 days." of which 32 were on the day of nomination for deletion). Technical 13 (talk) 16:20, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 00:49, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I tried (and am trying) to fix the grammar in the article. This does seem to be the only article about this subject (the redirect, as explained above, is about the opposite... thing). PrairieKid (talk) 05:14, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - duplicates an existing article, and this is definitely not a valid redirect; the title doesn't even make sense (at the very least, it should say "Iranians in Azerbaijan") and Serzhik's argument, which is bordering on incomprehensible, doesn't seem to address the fact it is a duplication. And if it is supposed to be talking about Azerbaijani Iranians, then WP:TNT this mess and write a proper article there. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 11:29, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete We already have a better article--this isn;t even a useful search term for a redirect, 'DGG (at NYPL) (talk) 17:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - duplicates an existing article. Kabirat (talk) 07:49, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.